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Old 09-22-2013, 06:59 AM   #61
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Will definitely check out bamarides Klav, thanks for the link!

And Jerry, as much as I love being able to pull the cover off my Kymco, insert key, tap the starter once, swing a leg over (through) and zoom off, I would LOVE to own a vintage Vespa someday! I think they ooze character and romance.
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:44 AM   #62
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Will definitely check out bamarides Klav, thanks for the link!

And Jerry, as much as I love being able to pull the cover off my Kymco, insert key, tap the starter once, swing a leg over (through) and zoom off, I would LOVE to own a vintage Vespa someday! I think they ooze character and romance.
I don't see how anyone could not love a vintage Vespa. They have tons of character. Definitely NOT twist and go. They are everything my Stella is, but should be more reliable. So far all the problems I've had with the Stella have been engine related. I can't help but wonder if putting a real Vespa engine in it would solve that problem. A 2 stroke manual shift scooter is definitely an enthusiast bike. It takes a lot more effort, and a lot more interaction with the bike to ride it than anything modern. It is neither smooth nor quiet, but I don't see anything good about those things.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:01 PM   #63
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I don't see how anyone could not love a vintage Vespa. They have tons of character. Definitely NOT twist and go. They are everything my Stella is, but should be more reliable. So far all the problems I've had with the Stella have been engine related. I can't help but wonder if putting a real Vespa engine in it would solve that problem. A 2 stroke manual shift scooter is definitely an enthusiast bike. It takes a lot more effort, and a lot more interaction with the bike to ride it than anything modern. It is neither smooth nor quiet, but I don't see anything good about those things.

Thankfully, for the manufacturers and the rest of the world progress marches on and the need to refine, devolop and evolve priducts is inherently part of the process. And remember, the Vespas you call "vintage" were once cutting edge technology! Its all just a snapshot in time.

Someday, some of our grandkids may be calling todays "modern" Vespas "vintage" espousing the gasoline engined GTS250 as an "enthusiast" bike versus what will undoubtedly be electric or some other form of motivation (nuclear, hydrogen, Soylent Green ?) we havent even thought about yet....
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:19 PM   #64
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Style vs. Substance

Howdy,

The OP prefers style to substance (Piaggio vs. Kymco). I support his right to choose.
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:42 PM   #65
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i ain't claiming ANY objectivity or even credibility! a man knows what he likes, dammit.

jerryh: that's the best post you've made, explaining your love for the old electronics-free beasties. no presumptions of superiority or contempt for the modern; just a personal love and appreciation for the old ways.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:00 PM   #66
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I second that about Jerry's post. A few years ago a friend left an old Vespa 2 stroke shifter with me while he went overseas for a bit. As an old Bultaco/Hodaka veteran I was obviously no stranger to 2 stroke engines. His Vespa had a larger motor, possibly 175cc's? Point here is I had enormous fun riding it, wished he would have stayed in Europe and had a hard time giving it back to him. Tried to buy it but he wouldn't have any of that. If I ever find another I'll snap it up.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:13 PM   #67
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Thanks for the picture info Klaviator. This picture is me and my son at the borders usa-canada (lacolle,qc) with the yamaha riva scooter .
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Hi Klaviator. I have now a yamaha riva 200cc made in 1987. And i have a lot of fun with thia scootrer, like you hade 25 years ago, i guess.
I will put some pictures, If, i can finaly get how to dowload some pictures , the right size.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:58 PM   #68
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I'm with the Captain on this one. The 500 reminds me of the American Motors Pacer.
Oh now I have to get one. Actually it reminds me a lot of the mid '70s Honda Civic, especially the yellow one. Seems like most of those early Civics were yellow. They were super cool little cars, and I wanted one in the worst way, but could not afford one. By the time I could, they had ruined the Civic, and came out with the Accord, which looked like a bigger Civic in the beginning. IMO, Honda cars have gone downhill ever since. Sometimes evolution is not a good thing, at least for me.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:15 AM   #69
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Yeah I would say that evolution has pretty much passed you by.
That is far from being an insult. Everything mechanical from the '60s and '70s worked just fine, at least for me. It really wasn't that long ago. I was just born about 20 years to late to get in on the good stuff at the right time.
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Old 09-25-2013, 01:45 PM   #70
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That is far from being an insult. Everything mechanical from the '60s and '70s worked just fine, at least for me. It really wasn't that long ago. I was just born about 20 years to late to get in on the good stuff at the right time.
Let's see here: 8-track tapes, most '60's-'70's era's automobiles (anyone remember the Vega?), tube TV's, typewriters, adding machines, 8 mm movies, RECTAL thermometers., drum brakes,...the list goes on. All perfect mechanical items that "worked just fine"?

The '60's and '70's may evoke a nostalgic pleasure-center for many of us, but that doesn't mean the machines and products we rely (relied) on to help us in our daily lives were better than they are now...they just had different problems and weaknesses. Man-made stuff will never change in that respect.

People seem to forget the negative, and remember the positive is all.

These are the good old days...thats a phrase that sums things up across the board. Yesterday, today, and it will tomorrow. A "truism" as I refer to it.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:02 PM   #71
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That is far from being an insult. Everything mechanical from the '60s and '70s worked just fine, at least for me. It really wasn't that long ago. I was just born about 20 years to late to get in on the good stuff at the right time.
You are an absolute waste of time and contribute nothing useful to the vast majority of threads you darken. Which part of your post belongs in a kymco thread? By your own confession, if the title of the thread doesn't say "old", "vintage", or exist in oldschool, you shouldn't be there. We've all heard your tired shtick way too many times already. Go find some like minded individuals and repeat yourself to your heart's content. I don't know where those like minded individuals are, but I certainly know where they aren't.
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:13 PM   #72
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I bought my first and only scooter 13 months ago. A lightly used Kymco Agility 125. I paid $1100. Best $1100 I have ever spent...
What is not to love?
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p.s. First time back to this forum in many months. Fun catching up!

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Old 09-25-2013, 06:39 PM   #73
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I bought my first and only scooter 13 months ago. A lightly used Kymco Agility 125. I paid $1100. Best $1100 I have ever spent...
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p.s. First time back to this forum in many months. Fun catching up!


Good to see you back and still scooting Kenny.
(Did you ever move forward with that project you were debating?)
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:44 PM   #74
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Hi GoGo. Still working on it. Several financial and personal hurdles (recent divorce) to overcome. Still love riding and see such obvious demand in my area...
Funny thing. I have a page on FB called "Naperville Scooters". I get calls looking for bikes and servicing every week...
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:31 PM   #75
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hello kenny. plz tell us about that neat windshield. any info on where to get one and how its mounted would be great

also, how effective do you find it? i would suppose at least somewhat as its on the scooter. but doesn't mean its perfect

thanks, i like your scooter its just like mine
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