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Old 09-21-2013, 10:02 PM   #16
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I'm just totally at ease, what with now knowing that the Sportster based motor in my Buell,
is seemingly devoid of all the issues found in these troublesome big twins.

Love this thread,
BIG potential...

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Old 09-21-2013, 11:40 PM   #17
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Throw in a set of these with upgraded cam bearings and the 99-02 Twin Cam was the sledgehammer Twin Cam......The Evo is a great engine, but by the time you get it to make anywhere near 100HP its a grenade.

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Old 09-22-2013, 01:00 AM   #18
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It's true the EVO engine will not hold up to hot rodding (I know a Harley/Harley clone mechanic, and watched him rebuild an 80" EVO) But I don't understand this thing about power with a Harley. You want power, get a Hayabusa. A Harley is a cruiser. It's purpose is just to kick back and ride, enjoying the vibration and that wonderful exhaust sound. It is not a sport bike nor a muscle bike.

It's also a bike that many people like to spend thousands of dollars on in chrome, paint, and leather. But I'm not that type. A stock Harley EVO with some slightly louder than stock pipes would satisfy me just fine.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:14 AM   #19
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Both not real hd
Last was the shovel designed by the original hd
Lol
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Amf for the evo
Gang of 13 for the twin cam
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:36 AM   #20
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Both not real hd
Last was the shovel designed by the original hd
Lol
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Amf for the evo
Gang of 13 for the twin cam
The EVO did not come out until HD separated from AMF. The Shovelhead was an AMF engine. It was the only AMF/Harley-Davidson engine AMF ever made.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:40 AM   #21
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The EVO did not come out until HD separated from AMF. The Shovelhead was an AMF engine. It was the only AMF/Harley-Davidson engine AMF ever made.
Like I said the shovel came from hd
The evo from amf
Twin cam from gang of13
Now go and see who designed these bikes
Last real hd was the shovel
This is in fun.
Like the modern triumphs are not real etc.
Husquvarnas not real
Rolls-Royce not real
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:37 AM   #22
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Like I said the shovel came from hd
The evo from amf
Twin cam from gang of13
Now go and see who designed these bikes
Last real hd was the shovel
This is in fun.
Like the modern triumphs are not real etc.
Husquvarnas not real
Rolls-Royce not real
Cheers
The EVO is based on the same bottom end as the Shovel and the Pan, namely the Knuckle.
It is mostly a Shovel with aluminum cylinders and a better combustion chamber.
It has the same basic one cam design, the same layout of the breathing and oiling, it is just an evolution of the design of the founders.
That makes it the last true H-D engine as far as I'm conserned.
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:43 AM   #23
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The EVO is based on the same bottom end as the Shovel and the Pan, namely the Knuckle.
It is mostly a Shovel with aluminum cylinders and a better combustion chamber.
It has the same basic one cam design, the same layout of the breathing and oiling, it is just an evolution of the design of the founders.
That makes it the last true H-D engine as far as I'm conserned.
Yeh u got me
So we will go with the evo then
As the last real hd.
Cheers

Now which is better
I would go with the later bike
IMHO
I prefer shovels though
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:25 AM   #24
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Terrible writing, and full of shit. I don't dispute that the TC has some issues (particularly the earlier versions), but the author of that page is just full of it.
That and his Jesus fish website.......
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:06 AM   #25
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well I can speak from personal experience...

I have a 2000 twincam that dropped it's cam chain at around 70k.
While it's being done I'm doing the "whole job" - gear driven cam, upgraded cam bearings, cam, pistons, crank and heads being done up etc etc etc

about $5K all up...
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:30 AM   #26
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The Evo was designed by AMF. If you actually know Harley the original advertising it stated the Evolution was "5 years in the making." Do the math.

And AMF saved Harley-Davidson. They brought modern production methods,the alternator,rubber mounted drivetrain,5 speed transmissions,electronic ignition,decent carburetors,disc brakes,commonised taper flywheels,valve stem seals,spin-on oil filters..............

And as far as the Evo being a Shovel bottom end while they may be similar they are not the same.

And once more shut up Jerry. The Shovelhead's first year was 1966 you dumbass. AMF didn't acquire Harley until 4 years later.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:09 AM   #27
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The Evo was designed by AMF. If you actually know Harley the original advertising it stated the Evolution was "5 years in the making." Do the math.

And AMF saved Harley-Davidson. They brought modern production methods,the alternator,rubber mounted drivetrain,5 speed transmissions,electronic ignition,decent carburetors,disc brakes,commonised taper flywheels,valve stem seals,spin-on oil filters..............

And as far as the Evo being a Shovel bottom end while they may be similar they are not the same.

And once more shut up Jerry. The Shovelhead's first year was 1966 you dumbass. AMF didn't acquire Harley until 4 years later.


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Old 09-22-2013, 07:23 AM   #28
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The Evo was designed by AMF. If you actually know Harley the original advertising it stated the Evolution was "5 years in the making." Do the math.

And AMF saved Harley-Davidson. They brought modern production methods,the alternator,rubber mounted drivetrain,5 speed transmissions,electronic ignition,decent carburetors,disc brakes,commonised taper flywheels,valve stem seals,spin-on oil filters..............

And as far as the Evo being a Shovel bottom end while they may be similar they are not the same.

And once more shut up Jerry. The Shovelhead's first year was 1966 you dumbass. AMF didn't acquire Harley until 4 years later.
If you think you know H-D by their advertising, well...

...and I consider a H-D made under AMF a Harley too, more than any made after they sold out and went on the stock market anyway.
I didn't say the Evo was a shovel bottom, I said it was mostly, maybe wrong word, maybe I should say based on.
But the fact remains, the Evo bottom is the same layout as the Knuckle, so much that when the TC was in the making and the enginers was making the oiling system on that engine they realised how litle they knew about the oil and breathing on the older BigTwins, they had for the mostly stayed the same as mr Harley him self designed it.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:53 AM   #29
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I work on harley's for a living and they both have issues. If i had to pick one I would take a TC hands down. Just my opinion.


P.S. I ride a twin cam
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:17 AM   #30
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Hey! Where's Jerry?


You mean Ole Anvil Head???


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