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Old 09-30-2013, 12:23 PM   #16
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Just don't think of getting one of those clown cars with the canvas on the roof.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:24 PM   #17
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:09 PM   #18
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My girlfriend bought one this past spring, I think she paid $13K it's an '04 had about 80K on it. The thing looked new when we picked it up down in Pueblo. It did develop a coolant leak the first week and needed an A/C recharge but since then it's been fine. Her's is a SMG and I'm not a huge fan. It just doesn't shift fast enough for my liking I feel I could shift a normal manual faster. I had an NA Miata several years ago and I had much more fun driving that car than the Z-4 (again I think I'd probably feel differently if the Z-4 had a clutch).

It is MUCH faster than a Miata but probably slower than an S2000 (I believe the S2K is lighter but not 100% sure), the S2K has similar HP but significantly less torque than the 3.0 I-6 in the BMW (a 2.5 is also available but if you get a Z4 go for the 3.0). I was trying to steer her away from the German cars but she didn't like the MX-5 (claimed the windshield header was too low) and I don't think she even tested an S2K (probably 'cause she'd been driving an Accord Coupe for the last 7 years). If it were me I'd probably go for the S2K, but I like rev happy motors.

The funny thing is she moved here from New Orleans, said she would never have the top down back there due to all the rain and it's too friggin hot in the summer.

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Old 09-30-2013, 07:57 PM   #19
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I live 45 miles from New Orleans. Top down is not good in the summer except some evenings. Best weather is September-December, then April-June. This year has been pretty rainy.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:08 PM   #20
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They look nice. This current generation's exterior and interior was designed by two women and it's probably their best looking model. I would think the 2.0L Turbo with a 6 speed would be a fun lil' drive.


That is a good looking car
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:45 PM   #21
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It is for sure.

I suspect that a few years from now, people will be griping about the hard tops though. I think that's on all these convertible hard tops though. Lots of moving parts, leaks, and of course, say goodbye to the meager space you previously had for a trunk.

Still though, gorgeous car. The 335 must scoot along pretty well.
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:47 AM   #22
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we have those cars everywhere in florida, but seldom do i see one with the top down. i'm guesing they are a pain to raise or lower. on the other hand, it seems all miatas have their tops down unless it's pouring down raining. i bought my 06 miata with 40k on the odometer for a few thousand dollars less than ( I think she paid $13K it's an '04 had about 80K on it). i've put 27k miles on it in the 50 weeks that i've owned it. this is my 5th ragtop if i include my jeep. and this is the absolute most fun car i've ever driven. for the money it can't be beat. if you after image, the bmw is good for that. if you want total fun, the miata is good. i've taken 3 road trips of 2k or more each and was never uncomfortable. my wife was along for one and she too was comfortable. it put a luggage rack (5 minute instal/remove) on the trunk and we camped out of that car for 5 days.
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Old 10-03-2013, 11:05 AM   #23
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^ Yes.





I love my '10 MX. Cheap, frugal and reliable. 3 years 0 problems. And yeah, they are a funny car.

If ya go for a Z, six pot only. Four bangers are w/o soul and sound. Crap on fuel too given the output. The newer 2l turbos might be funny but you can't beat a screaming sixpack.

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Old 10-04-2013, 05:27 AM   #24
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kitesurfer--they are quite easy to go up and down, maybe people just don't wanna mess up their hair?

My mom has a 3.0L Z3 and it's an awesome driving car. Handling seems not all that far off my porsche 968 (which is the best handling car I've driven) and the motor's better overall (slightly less peak power but more low-mid, smoother, more responsive). To me a long-hooded roadster like this really should have an inline six up front. Seems perfectly reliable (she's had it since new and no problems).

The Z cars are mechanically mostly 3-series. They are particularly good used value imo. For just a touch more than a used miata you get a whole lot more car.
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:45 PM   #25
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I hard top coupe went by this morning on my way to work. Looked tons better than the soft top version.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:45 PM   #26
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I have had 3 ragtops.

92 Miata - fun car but gutless. As reliable (and fast) as a KLR.

2001 BMW Z3 2.3, engine had some weird ECU rev issues between shifts. QC was horrible. Engine was great as far as sound and power, nearly perfect steering feedback. Second best handling car I ever owned.

2001 Porsche Boxster. Perfect handling and steering feedback. Very reliable although a bit underpowered. A Porsche out of warranty can be an evil beast.

I am going to test drive a new Miata and a BRZ nezt week when the boss is out of town.
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Don't laugh, but what I'm driving right now is a '07 Pontiac Solstice. The only reason I've been tempted to change is the complete lack of luggage space. I can stuff the trunk with multiple small storage bags but thats about it. That's one reason the Boxster tempts me. When I bought this car I intentionally avoided Audi TT's, Boxsters, and Z's because of reliability questions. The Solstice is reliable, but really kind of soulless and has no storage. I have a friend that has a Boxster S but I find it to be less comfortable than the Solstice. Faster and more exciting, but less comfortable.
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:09 PM   #28
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FWIW I don't think you'll find the Boxster, TT, or Z to be particularly unreliable. For that matter my porsche 968 is 20ys old and has 150k miles and runs perfectly. It also has a huge amount of luggage space for a small sports coupe.
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I hard top coupe went by this morning on my way to work. Looked tons better than the soft top version. [/IMG]
That's what I think too. The rag tops are cool but the coupe (to me) is just
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:36 PM   #30
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Dad's got an '07 M Coupe. Its a sweet ride, and looks like nothing else around. But when things go wrong, it is expensive. He is coming up on the end of the PPO warranty and has to decide if its worth keeping. Apparently they have rod bearing issues, he has been analyzing the oil after each change.

For track days, however, he uses my Miata. Consumables are 1/3 the price, and the risk of writing off the car is a lot lower.
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