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Old 10-02-2013, 09:34 AM   #1
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House water pipe routing.

I was under the house last night doing to insulation work. I was checking out the water lines and their routing and I got really confused. Water comes into the house from the ground at the center of the house, then branches off. One goes and supplies the house with water, the other goes to the far side of the house, to a valve, turns to flexible plastic pipe then back into the ground. I did not mess with the valve. I remember it being on, though I can not tell for sure. What is this branch for?

It is not the sprinkler or outside water, I know where those are.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:56 AM   #2
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Do you have a well or city water?
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:57 AM   #3
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That was my guess, an old well line.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:07 AM   #4
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City water. Pretty sure it has always been city water.

But that line is an OUT line. I should go check again if the valve is open or close
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:08 AM   #5
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Could this be for circulating in the winter to prevent freeze-up - not sure where you are but in the north, where there are exposed lines or extreme cold
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:15 AM   #6
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It does get cold where I am at. 28 last night. So this line then ties into the main in. You crack the valve and it keeps the water circulating to prevent freezing. Interesting. But this would not prevent the supply lines that feed the house from freezing as this circuit is the first branch.

I was thinking about the well comment. I guess it could also be an "IN' line tot he house water system.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:55 AM   #7
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Was there once an outbuilding on the property? Maybe they piped fresh water to it.
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:10 AM   #8
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It does get cold where I am at. 28 last night. So this line then ties into the main in. You crack the valve and it keeps the water circulating to prevent freezing. Interesting. But this would not prevent the supply lines that feed the house from freezing as this circuit is the first branch.

I was thinking about the well comment. I guess it could also be an "IN' line tot he house water system.
If there was a freeze relief valve, it wouldn't (or shouldn't) be in the crawl space. There are much easier ways. I would be trying to open/close the valve and see what happens.
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:21 AM   #9
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Or my neighbor is stealing my WATER
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:38 AM   #10
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Hmm

Turn the valve off and see what happens. You are on city water, so you should have pressure and never need to prime a pump.

If your neighbor comes out and says his shower just stopped, you know what it is
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Old 10-02-2013, 01:36 PM   #11
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Turn the valve off and see what happens. You are on city water, so you should have pressure and never need to prime a pump.

If your neighbor comes out and says his shower just stopped, you know what it is
Now that you mention it, my water usage has been a bit high for a couple of months and my neighbor has been endlessly wet-sanding an old Dakota he bought on the cheap. I have an inside shutoff for that sillcock, so maybe I'll turn that off to see if my usage goes back down. (Besides, it's almost time to turn it off for the season anyway.)
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Old 10-06-2013, 03:17 AM   #12
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I was under the house last night
It is always good to get/keep up close and personal with the underside of your house. Seriously. Its always good to see whats going on.

Once a year at least.

Previous line for a Koi pond or fake creek or waterfall that's long gone from previous owner?

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Old 10-28-2013, 12:05 PM   #13
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Ok I think I figured it out, it is a drain line.

Was under the house yesterday and storing some summer gear. Thought about the line again so I went to mess with it.

The valve on the extra line was open. I opened it and closed it several times, while allowing time between it. It seems like there is not water/pressure in the line. the plastic hose runs down into the vapor barrier. I notice allot of white hard water deposited like staining on the cinder block foundation at the edge of the vapor barrier near this hose/pipe. So I rip a small opening in the vapor barrier to see what is underneath. A wet towel/rag!!!

What I think is going on is when you shut off the main water coming into the house the lines in the hose self drain out of a relief valve. The draining water is suppose to drain through this extra line. It doesn't do the best job as the draining water sprays out right at the shut off valve. But some water must travel down this extra water pipe and into a pit of some sort.

I was not please to find the wet rag underneath the vapor barrier. I did not want to mess with that crap unless I was all geared up. Looks like I need to pull up the vapor barrier and make sure the pit is draining well. Did not see heavy molding, but imagine there could/should be.

Something to look forward to. GREAT!!!
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:37 PM   #14
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Ok I think I figured it out, it is a drain line.

Was under the house yesterday and storing some summer gear. Thought about the line again so I went to mess with it.

The valve on the extra line was open. I opened it and closed it several times, while allowing time between it. It seems like there is not water/pressure in the line. the plastic hose runs down into the vapor barrier. I notice allot of white hard water deposited like staining on the cinder block foundation at the edge of the vapor barrier near this hose/pipe. So I rip a small opening in the vapor barrier to see what is underneath. A wet towel/rag!!!

What I think is going on is when you shut off the main water coming into the house the lines in the hose self drain out of a relief valve. The draining water is suppose to drain through this extra line. It doesn't do the best job as the draining water sprays out right at the shut off valve. But some water must travel down this extra water pipe and into a pit of some sort.

I was not please to find the wet rag underneath the vapor barrier. I did not want to mess with that crap unless I was all geared up. Looks like I need to pull up the vapor barrier and make sure the pit is draining well. Did not see heavy molding, but imagine there could/should be.

Something to look forward to. GREAT!!!
Condensate drain or T & P discharge pipe from the water heater ?

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Old 10-28-2013, 05:59 PM   #15
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sounds like it was a summer use house.
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