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Old 12-08-2013, 01:40 AM   #61
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Ford's new entry

I know this a bike forum.

Has anybody read up on the Fords new entry to this years Dakar. Just wondering on other peoples thought seeing its got a mustang 5.0 liter in it. Cant wait to see that run in the Attacama!
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Old 12-08-2013, 01:57 AM   #62
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http://www.autoblog.com/2013/07/30/f...r-dakar-rally/

http://3d-car-shows.com/ford-dakar-2014/#
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:53 AM   #63
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:42 AM   #64
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Wow... A Durango you say? Yeah, well maybe the design cues for the grille and headlights and (if you really stretch the imagination) the body lines... kinda sorta..

This thing, along with RG's (yet to be seen completely in the flesh) HST Gordini, and the Baldwin/Jefferies EVR Chevy's (none of which are 4WD) are the writing on the wall for the near future and probably mean the end (design/regulation wise) of the 4WD T1 spec FIA factory cars like the MINI, the Toyota's and the new comer FORD Ranger.

A couple of weeks ago, I made a misinformed comment (about the presumed spec of RG's much awaited HST Dakar weapon) - due largely to the fact it's been a year (or more) since I cast an eye over the FIA T1 eligibility regulations.

As per the quote from Darren Skilton (over in the RG thread) - there have been some wholesale alterations on behalf of the FIA; that no longer require the chassis/body (unibody) of a vehicle in T1 to respect a standard homologated unit.

The unibody requirement (previously) limited a number of things a factory/manufacturer could optimise...given that the chassis was both expensive and complicated to replicate in carbon fibre (requires the use of large autoclave ovens, F1 type technology and dollars).

But now that this requirement is no longer applicable, and with the unlimited wheel travel offered to 2WD / FIA T1 category vehicles... it seems that the pendulum maybe swings over to the US style "Trophy Truck" technology that some of these vehicles exhibit.

My guess is the Hummer was the thin edge of the wedge. Whenever it was running in the OPEN/SCORE class, the engine restrictor and weight limit formula kept it in check (as compared to the VW Tuareg and Mistu EVOs/Lancers)... but in recent years the Hummer has shown outright speed superiority (at least periodically) on almost all terrain, with the exception of the WRC style formed roads.

If the the X-Raid MINI's represent the last of the true factory T1/SUV Body replica/diesel powered FIA cars, and the Imperial/Overdrive Toyota's the last V8 petrol powered T1/Body replica 4WD pick ups...

Then these US-style 2WD super offroaders - like those the three above mentioned US teams will bring to the dakar this year; may represent the future. Couple with that things like the bugglies, the ex-RG Hummers (although they won't be there in 2014) and the SMG cars (like Sainz will run in 2014, and Chicherit showed paced in 2013 with)... then the 2WD tide looks to be catching up on the 4WD's... who are still limited by the production based homologated engine, and limited wheel travel regulations.

The Euros (read FIA) may just have let their guard down this time? By dropping a few key sentences in the rulebook, the pendulum has swung, and now... their glass jaw may just well be exposed?

This year the auto scrutineering will be fun...
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:35 PM   #65
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New EVR's Chevrolet protos. We're ready for Dakar....





I'm really excited to see what Ballistic BJ Baldwin does in this years Dakar. I think his back to back Baja 1000 wins (as an Ironman) and the fact that he finished this years 1000 with no tire punctures are signs that he stands a very good chance of running at the front. Plus, with Quinn Cody as a Navigator it makes this ride a good one to cheer for.

From Quinn's twitter page:
"Not gonna lie, I'm more than a little nervous about riding shotgun with @bjbaldwin for 5500mi. There are not too many guys I would hand over control to! I was so looking forward to sharing this experience with KC. #dakar #navagator #oshit! #USA #318"

"If you look close you can see me shitting myself! Seriously, after spending some time in the car with @bjbaldwin I am completely comfortable and looking forward to kicking ass at #dakar2014 @toyotires #teamusa"
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:39 PM   #66
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Here is more info on the El Martillo Racing Durango

Original article is here: http://www.elmartilloracing.com/blog...dodge-durango/



Successful testing of the El Martillo Racing’s Dodge Durango
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On December 2nd, Matt Campbell and El Martillo Racing received the Dodge Durango which they will be entering into the 2014 edition of the Dakar Rally. The team will represent Canada, Mexico and the USA. With Luis “Fito” Ramirez (2nd driver) and Nicolas Ambriz (Navigator) and other team members standing by, the car was delivered by Mike Julson of Jimco Racing Inc. All were impressed by the quality of workmanship and technology.

The Durango is built from the ground up in San Diego for this the 6th South American running of the Dakar. It represents a collaboration of the best chassis builder, tested components and carbon fiber technology.

On the morning of December 3rd the El Martillo Team took the new Durango to Plaster City, California for initial testing. Representatives from the shock, electronic/electrical and engine companies came with the team to fine tune the car and at 10:00 AM the car started and the test began. Matt Campbell took the first test run and was exceptionally pleased with the Durango. The suspension worked extremely well and the car was balanced and powerful.

The day was spent fine tuning the Durango and ensuring the use and adjustment of all the electronic components, setting speed limiters, distance and heading components and the functioning of the ECU. After the electronics, the team, with the help of the factory shock representative, set the suspension for the local conditions. As the Durango has a large fuel capacity, care was taken to assess the changing weight conditions through a day’s race. The staff of Jimco Racing was on hand to lend their expertise to the days’ activities.

The second day of testing was held in the Imperial Dunes near Glamis, California, with the full complement of technicians to assess and adjust the Durango. A successful session was held in the large sand dunes where the car proved its ability to climb the large dunes and maneuver in the sand. These dunes replicate the conditions we will find on the Dakar 2014 route so it was important to complete testing and adjust the car to those conditions.

The Durango was then returned to Jimco Racing for final adjustments and pre-race prep. There the car will go through final preparation and testing. On December 13 through 15th the Durango will be on display at Carl Burger Dodge in La Mesa California.

Moro photos here: https://www.facebook.com/martillo2dakar/photos_albums

El Martillo Racing, Dodge Durango Tech aspects:

1. Chrome Moly Chassis by Jimco, wheelbase 128, width 93
2. Carbon Fiber and Kevlar Body, custom CAD design
3. Engine, 7.6 liter, 463 cu. inch, RHS Block by Redline Motors
4. Stainless Steel headers and exhaust
5. 140 gallons fuel, range 550 miles
6. Intake restrictor 37.2 mm or 1.46 inches, by comparison normal intake is 90 to 120 mm.
7. Motec ignition
8. Motec PDM
9. Wiring by Wirefab
10. PCI Intercom, 3 station
11. HID Lights
12. Albins, 6 speed sequential transmission
13. Air Conditioned
14. Navigation, 2 GPS’s, 2 Terra Trip distance calculators
15. Car built and tagged to SCORE standards and FIA safety Equipment
16. Sentinel communication system and proximity alarm
17. BFG, KR2 Off-Road tires. 37” x 12.5” R17
18. Method 17” x 7.5” Bead Lock Wheels
19. Integral AGM hydraulic jacking system
20. Front Hubs, Pro Am
21. Rear Hubs, Fortin
22. Brakes, Alcon 13” Disk,
23. Rear Suspension, trailing arm
a. Fox, remote/piggy back reservoir 4 by-pass shocks 180 psi
b. Fox, dual rate, remote reservoir, coil over shocks 180 psi
c. Sway bars
24. Front Suspension, A-Arm
a. Fox, remote/piggy back reservoir 5 by-pass shocks 180 psi
b. Fox, dual rate, remote reservoir, coil over shocks 180 psi
c. Sway bars
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:20 PM   #67
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Big dog with a little collar?

7.6 litres....?

In the 2014 ASO/FIA Dakar regs it states that 2WD's in either the T3P (US/SCORE elible) OP.1 category must conform to the T1 regulation for engine capacity/air restrictor diameter;
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Wonder what horses they get with the restrictor... considering the norm (in US racing circles) would be approximately three times the diameter ?
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:36 AM   #68
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From 5-18 January 2014, MINI will be lined up with eleven MINI ALL4 Racing, run by the X-raid team, at the Rally Dakar. In 2012 and 2013 the MINI ALL4 Racing was the car to beat at the toughest marathon rally in the world. Frenchman Stéphane Peterhansel won the most recent two Dakar editions at the wheel of the MINI ALL4 Racing of the Monster Energy X-raid Team.

“Motorsport is in the DNA of MINI. Since its birth in the late 1950s, the MINI brand has been intrinsically associated with motorsport”, says Jochen Goller, Senior Vice President MINI. It was then that John Cooper (GB) saw the basis for a promising sports car and started to modify the classic Mini to be entered in motorsports. In 1959, the Mini won the Mille Miglia national rally. In the 1960s, Mini won the Monte Carlo Rally three times, and nearly a fourth. Nowadays, the name John Cooper is still associated with the sporting legend of the MINI brand through the John Cooper Works range, which represents the sporty image of the brand with exclusive models and special performance accessories.

Goller continues: “That is also why the ‘John Cooper Works’ brand is associated with every sporting event the MINI competes in. This is the first reason why MINI is competing in Dakar. The second reason lies in the core values of MINI: excitement and agility – which are very much part of motorsport and consistent with the image of the Dakar. By winning the 2012 and 2013 Rally Dakar, MINI – like in the 1960s - has been able to make possible what seemingly was impossible, small against large, David versus Goliath. The last reason is the Dakar itself. The rally has become a fantastic communication channel thanks to its huge media interest which generates a worldwide visibility. We want to anchor the MINI and John Cooper Works brands as well as the MINI performance DNA among the enthusiastic followers of the Dakar.”

The 2014 Rally Dakar is another milestone in the history of MINI at the toughest endurance rally in the world. Never before have more MINI ALL4 Racing cars been lined up at the Dakar than at its 36th edition: a total of eleven will compete for the victory. “I think we are going in the right direction”, says Stéphane Peterhansel. “I won the last two rallies, but it does not mean anything for the next event, as each rally is new chapter.”

In 2011, the MINI ALL4 Racing made its debut at the legendary Rally Dakar. “Entering a compact off-road vehicle in an endurance race held under the toughest possible conditions, was the challenge we wanted to master,” says Goller. Based on the MINI John Cooper Works Countryman, the MINI ALL4 Racing immediately proved it was competitive and winning the hearts of the fans from the word go.

Just one year later, a total of five MINI ALL4 Racing cars lined up at the Dakar. Says Goller: “With a combination of power, reliability and efficiency, as well as the most successful Dakar competitor of all time behind the wheel, the MINI brand made the big breakthrough on only its second appearance: the MINI ALL4 Racing and Stéphane Peterhansel won the 2012 Rally Dakar.” MINI made its third appearance on the Dakar stage in January 2013 – once again with five MINI ALL4 Racing cars – and successfully defended its title at the first attempt.

The MINI ALL4 Racing and the X-raid Team put in strong performances by winning two important events before the 2014 Dakar: the FIA Cross-Country Rally World Cup drivers’ title with Poland’s Krzysztof Holowczyc and the challenging OiLibya Rally of Morocco with the Argentinean Orlando Terranova, both at the wheels of a MINI ALL4 Racing. Says Goller: “The X-raid Team has done an excellent job by continuing the fine tuning of the car, and the MINI ALL4 Racing seems to be ready for the Dakar again. I am quite confident we will achieve good team result and I hope to successfully defend the title in South America.”
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But could the modern "Mini" be any further removed from the classic (real) mini.
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TROY, your comments:

'Then these US-style 2WD super offroaders - like those the three above mentioned US teams will bring to the dakar this year; may represent the future. Couple with that things like the bugglies, the ex-RG Hummers (although they won't be there in 2014) and the SMG cars (like Sainz will run in 2014, and Chicherit showed paced in 2013 with)... then the 2WD tide looks to be catching up on the 4WD's... who are still limited by the production based homologated engine, and limited wheel travel regulations.'

These are right on. If you recall one of the interviews with RG he said he regretted letting Al Attyiah drive the Hummer because it gave him the idea and preview of the next format, powerful, low and smaller overall dimensions than the Hummer. He showed up with the bugly (in very ugly brown) Apparently that is all playing out.......
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I spy red neck super charger components here
wonder if the rest is under the hood
Yep, wonder where the rest of the plumbing goes, maybe threaded into the manifold instead of dumping into the inlet. Better not let Frenchy see that

Oh, thats right, that will only happen if he gets passed and sand thrown in his face.
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So, Robby sold the Hummer? Hmn, that thing was fast and reliable; hope this doesn't become a problem for him. I know he is counting on the new car but I am concerned about the motor in the front, especially with 2WD.

We shall see....
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So, Robby sold the Hummer? Hmn, that thing was fast and reliable; hope this doesn't become a problem for him. I know he is counting on the new car but I am concerned about the motor in the front, especially with 2WD.

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Did buying the Hummer come with permission to jump the starters podium?



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