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Old 10-10-2013, 02:39 PM   #61
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And it would have stayed under the radar had someone not asked for clarification. I thought his first comment about it being too much was curious, but didn't think about it much; but when he started talking about awarding a championship point to Marquez for risky riding (and the way Marquez was smiling nervously next to him), that was good stuff.
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Old 10-10-2013, 02:54 PM   #62
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Maybe you were watching a different pass than I did but it is very obvious that Marquez knew he was there and turned into Pedrosa. I am not naive enough to think he intentionally had plans to crash Dani or anything like that but he forced contact that in no way was necessary.
You're telling me that you calculate contact into your "safe passes"?
Granted, it's been a while but if I forced a pass like that in CMRA, CRA or WERA, the guy that I caused to crash would be searching the pits for me to see if it was physically possible to punt my nuts through the top of my head or to see if he could invert my nose with his fist.
Marc could have easily ran that turn a little wide and not made contact in some valiant effort to force the pass on Dani...and then recovered within half a lap.
I don't ever plan contact and I don't think MM did either. He got in too hot, go tpinched between DP and the curb, then inadvertently barley touched DP's swing arm with his clutch lever guard (most likely). I don't think he was planning contact, just trying to stay on the track. If DP would have turned in a split second earlier, there would have been no contact. My point was while trying to set up a pass it is not uncommon to get in too hot and run up beside somebody.

First, that wasn't a "forced pass", it was a "got in too hot". And second, if you did the same thing at a club race, no one would know because that light touch wouldn't have done anything, much less cause a crash. The only reason it caused a crash here was TC, the poorly protected wire, and the poorly programmed system.
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:30 PM   #63
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My point was while trying to set up a pass it is not uncommon to get in too hot and run up beside somebody.
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It was the responsibility of the rider behind to ensure that he would not hit the rider in front entering a corner.
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:02 PM   #64
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Case closed.
Apparently not in Kangaroo Court.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:50 PM   #65
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A dry and fairly uneventful FP1

Po. Name BikeGap First
1PEDROSA D.Honda2:01.229
2MARQUEZ M.Honda+0.367
3LORENZO J.Yamaha+0.394
4BAUTISTA A.Honda+0.648
5ROSSI V.Yamaha+0.810
6CRUTCHLOW C.Yamaha+1.141
7BRADL S.Honda+1.192
8HAYDEN N.Ducati+1.403
9SMITH B.Yamaha+1.496
10DOVIZIOSO A.Ducati+1.810
11EDWARDS C.FTR Kawasaki+2.345
12IANNONE A.Ducati+2.367
13ESPARGARO A.ART+2.544
14AOYAMA H.FTR+3.044
15BARBERA H.FTR+3.196
16CORTI C.FTR Kawasaki+3.474
17HERNANDEZ Y.Ducati+3.556
18DE PUNIET R.ART+3.673
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:59 PM   #66
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MM forced Hayden wide, but he waved an apology. I guess that's his interpretation of what race direction was looking for when they warned him to be more careful.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:01 PM   #67
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Now starting to rain for the Moto2 guys.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:03 PM   #68
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The footage of MM in super slow motion were great. I think right now, nobody has a hope in hell come race day against this kid.
I figure when the front boys can carry the front wheel askew, at will they are on it. MM is on it.. Don't care who's at the top, come Sunday afternoon MM is the man to beat.
Pedrosa may be going good now, but, MM is going to be banging the nails come FP2.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:31 PM   #69
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DP is pissed !!
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:33 PM   #70
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:27 PM   #71
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No more Mr. Nice Guy from DP. He wants to stuff Marquez in the race.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:01 AM   #72
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About what?
About a truly idiotic technical design taking away his title hopes... and to top it all off, the whole chain of events, that made engineers look very silly, was triggered by his teammate, with whom hes not best buddies.

Yep, DP is in win it or bin it-mode.

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Old 10-11-2013, 02:57 AM   #73
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FP2: Pedro is half a second quicker than MM in 2nd spot, and the only rider to do a sub 2.01 lap. He means business.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:29 AM   #74
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No more Mr. Nice Guy from DP...
Yeah. That role didn't suit him very well, anyway...
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The footage of MM in super slow motion were great. I think right now, nobody has a hope in hell come race day against this kid.
I figure when the front boys can carry the front wheel askew, at will they are on it. MM is on it.. Don't care who's at the top, come Sunday afternoon MM is the man to beat.
Pedrosa may be going good now, but, MM is going to be banging the nails come FP2.
Slow mo shots at T3, elbow down with the back lit up and stepped out!

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About a truly idiotic technical design taking away his title hopes... and to top it all off, the whole chain of events, that made engineers look very silly, was triggered by his teammate, with whom hes not best buddies.

Yep, DP is in win it or bin it-mode.
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