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Old 10-17-2013, 07:05 AM   #91
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I'll ride one - love to see how the fork treatment without the telelever feels on this bike.
That one will be interesting to follow... not a fan of the tele-lever on the R1200R, it has an odd feel & without the fairing weight of the RT or the ride height of the GS its anti dive properties are not so needed on the R
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:24 AM   #92
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I knew ADVr would be all over this.
To me, the 9T is interesting- but I'm not in the market for a brand new bike, and may not ever be, with so much to choose from for so much less in the used market.

BUT I applaud BMW for FINALLY stepping up with a hot modern retro rider.
I guess this is aimed straight at Ducati, or bikes of that ilk. IMO the 9T's rear end, in spite of the factory press about pillion comfort, doesn't look suitable for my lanky 5'-11" GF- who definitely doesn't want to ride around with her ass all up in the sky!
I've looked thru many of the 170 some pics on offer from BMW- I see a tank bag and a tail bag. IMO it'd be great if they also offered a set of retro hard side bags for the bike! With it's relatively upright riding position, it IS going to be possible to tour, or go long on this bike in "naked" comfort.

Can't wait to see one in person! Maybe at this years World Moto Expo this winter?

Anyway, my initial impression:
Bring it.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:59 AM   #93
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wealthy young male hipster will buy them. there are enough of those out there. older wealthy bmw collectors will also buy to add to the fleet. this bike is different and unique enough, for BMW, there is alot of appeal.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:04 AM   #94
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nothing tempting for HP2 Megamoto owners...
True statement!
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:06 AM   #95
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retro? nope, I see nothing retro about it, not one single styling cue from bmw's past. just looks like a modern naked bike.....
so many cool models they could take inspiration from, but like every attempt from the past, failure. does anyone at bmw today even know what a R4 is, or an R58, or an R37, or even a damn /6????
This is true. When I first heard about a last run edition R1200 with conventional forks and styling cues from the past I was interested but this thing is a styling disaster.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:40 AM   #96
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This is true. When I first heard about a last run edition R1200 with conventional forks and styling cues from the past I was interested but this thing is a styling disaster.

I'm not sure I'd go that far.

I'd have preferred they at least dress up the motor a bit, maybe blacked out valve covers will be something that hits the aftermarket quickly, as on the RSD concept bike.

I think in the US a lot about the NineT is going to rely on price. I think selling it within $500 of the R1200R will be a mistake, but otoh, undercutting the R1200R by a few thousand might be a different kind of mistake...
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:42 AM   #97
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Damn... that looks good with an Akrapovic pipe.
Except for those funny looking things sticking out of the sides that are attached to the pipe that goes to the Akrapovic silencer. :)
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:50 AM   #98
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Except for those funny looking things sticking out of the sides that are attached to the pipe that goes to the Akrapovic silencer. :)
one thing I did like about my old R1100RL was those things sticking out to the side. I dropped it on both sides. That motor is tough as nails and is wonderful for protecting legs. Way better than crash bars or frame sliders.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:10 AM   #99
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retro? nope, I see nothing retro about it, not one single styling cue from bmw's past.
Yep. Not a single one...



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Old 10-17-2013, 09:19 AM   #100
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Yep. Not a single one...


Oh what the NineT could have been.....
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:24 AM   #101
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BMW and Harley have one thing in common! They sure are backed into thier respective corners by thier faithful!

The first BMW in a decade that's even sparked a hint of interest from this Guzzisti and the thread fills up with posts from a bunch of Debbie Downers...






Every bike on the road doesn't have to have a 500lbs capacity rack sporting "Jessies". Every bike doesn't have to have the touring ammenities of an RT/LT/Goldwing.

A lot of riders never use more than a tank bag, and maybe a tail bag, in thier rides and travels.

This is the nicest "standard" motorcycle from BMW in a long time. "Normal" forks and super-nice brakes. A hint of retro, but very contemporary.

This bike may not appeal to the Jessies and 'stich crowd, but I'll bet that's by design.

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Old 10-17-2013, 09:36 AM   #102
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Bike sounds pretty good too.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:07 AM   #103
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This is the nicest "standard" motorcycle from BMW in a long time.
BMW has been making a very nice standard motorcycle all along: the R1200R.

There are even some retro kits for it, if that's your bag:



What the NineT has on the R1200R is purely style rather than substance, which probably is what is sparking the visceral reactions. Either the style works for you and it is great, or the style doesn't and it is pretty stupid given the other bikes BMW offers.

For me, it is pretty funny to see people get all googly-eyed over a "groundbreaking" bike that is pretty much the same bike BMW has been selling for years (only with less capability). That's ok, I won't get bent over a barrel trying to buy a bike that isn't even in-country yet.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:08 AM   #104
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BMW and Harley have one thing in common!

LOL you're right, actually the Harley version is probably easier on the eyes.





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Old 10-17-2013, 10:24 AM   #105
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BMW has been making a very nice standard motorcycle all along: the R1200R.
Bland. Dull. Has that stupid Tele-lever front end.

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What the NineT has on the R1200R is purely style rather than substance, which probably is what is sparking the visceral reactions. Either the style works for you and it is great, or the style doesn't and it is pretty stupid given the other bikes BMW offers.
Yes. It has much more visceral style than the R12R, which is why it's sparked interest in people (like me) who normally just ignore BMW's latest offerings.

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For me, it is pretty funny to see people get all googly-eyed over a "groundbreaking" bike that is pretty much the same bike BMW has been selling for years (only with less capability). That's ok, I won't get bent over a barrel trying to buy a bike that isn't even in-country yet.
Ditching the Tele-lever and re-working the styling is, apparently, just what the R12R has needed to spark some conversation. If by "capable" you mean "ability to latch on some Jessies", then yep. It's less capable for carrying Jessies. I'm gonna say that with the fork and brakes it will be much more enjoyable than the R12R for people who have not been indoctrinated.

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