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Old 10-18-2013, 02:51 PM   #31
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no 250'cc make a good inline four here's the MC22 20K RPM Screamer of a CBR 250RR, with Keihin flatslides and some tuning did if my memory serves me right a 114mph average speed lap on the Isle of Man TT



as much fun as a single can sometimes be it doesn't beat a bike you can just use the throttle as a scream switch the more you twist the more it goes, my VFR 400 will rev out to 14.5 K can;t imagine what a 20K revvy 250 would be like
If you search it on Youtube there are videos. Better yet look up the 6 cylinder 250 and 5 cylinder 125 Hondas.
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Old 10-19-2013, 06:48 AM   #32
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If it'll run 60-65 w/o straining, I'd take it over the multi-cylinder small displacement rides
I've got 13k miles on my CBR250R and it does that no problem. Top speed is 82 mpg or so. What with the rpm being electronically limited, the motor never feels like it's straining, it just hits the fuel shutoff.

With 7500 mile oil changes using synthetic, I suspect the WeeBee has a long life ahead of it.
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Old 10-19-2013, 06:59 AM   #33
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I've got 13k miles on my CBR250R and it does that no problem. Top speed is 82 mpg or so. What with the rpm being electronically limited, the motor never feels like it's straining, it just hits the fuel shutoff.

With 7500 mile oil changes using synthetic, I suspect the WeeBee has a long life ahead of it.

That's what I understand and thanks for the feedback. "Strained" is relative, though. I did not care for the Ninja 250 on the highway at all. Years of big-bores and V-8's, I reckon. What I can, or am willing, to get used to. To find a test ride...It's a Honda. No doubt it will last very well.

Thanks, again.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:05 AM   #34
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I really liked the CBR250R and I am so glad Honda has increased the engine size on it. 5 extra HP will make a lot of difference.
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:13 AM   #35
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:27 AM   #36
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Yep, depends what you're looking for and/or what you like. For this kind of bike, I'd take the better economy (Initial cost, insurance, and, gas mileage.), durability, and ease of ownership from the Honda. Pretty safe bet, I'm guessing. For excitement, yeh, I'd go w/the Katoom. However, if that's what I'm after, I want a different class of bike altogether. I understand things are different where you live, though. That's why they make different stuff. Good to have choices.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:39 AM   #37
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Yep, depends what you're looking for and/or what you like. For this kind of bike, I'd take the better economy (Initial cost, insurance, and, gas mileage.), durability, and ease of ownership from the Honda. Pretty safe bet, I'm guessing. For excitement, yeh, I'd go w/the Katoom. However, if that's what I'm after, I want a different class of bike altogether. I understand things are different where you live, though. That's why they make different stuff. Good to have choices.
For that, I'd get the CB500F/X/CBR, wouldn't bother with a 300, especially
if it's a single, since the 500s already have MPG figures better then 250cc
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:16 AM   #38
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For that, I'd get the CB500F/X/CBR, wouldn't bother with a 300, especially
if it's a single, since the 500s already have MPG figures better then 250cc
scooters.
I would think the 300 would get better mileage than the 500 IF it's kept at lower speeds (Under 60'ish???) on back roads, plus the lower cost. But, yeh, the 500 looks like a more practical all-rounder than the 300, no doubt. For those looking for back road, run-around efficiency and economy, the 300 looks hard to beat. Again, "if excitement" is not key.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:23 AM   #39
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For that, I'd get the CB500F/X/CBR, wouldn't bother with a 300, especially
if it's a single, since the 500s already have MPG figures better then 250cc
scooters.
I suspect the 300cc is a bit lighter in weight then the 500cc. Less weight = more fun.

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Old 10-21-2013, 09:03 AM   #40
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I suspect the 300cc is a bit lighter in weight then the 500cc. Less weight = more fun.

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If it's not 3hp more then the CBR250R, as mentioned earlier.

Duke 390 would be light for a 150cc scooter, and it's got the
power of basically a 500cc twin. Almost.

If you want fun, I don't think there's anything that would beat a Duke.

Hell, the 690 I tried felt like a bicycle.
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For fun, agreed: Katoom. For practicality and/or economy, Honda. A little fairing for wind and weather is nice and it'd just be so easy and cheap to own.
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For those looking for back road, run-around efficiency and economy, the 300 looks hard to beat. Again, "if excitement" is not key.
Real world, public road, there's only so much excitement any bike can provide. The fun is in the twisties and handling as well as staying in the bike's powerband running up and down thru the gears.

I ride some very small tight turns roads and when I keep the WeeBee on the boil, it sure seems exciting to me :)

There's a big difference between using a gear or two and relying on the throttle vs. running thru the gears keeping in the powerband and shifting just below the fuel cutoff.

In the car world, I own a Miata and like the WeeBee, love to flog it without mercy. A well built modern engine with modern oil can take full throtle, full rpm without a problem. In fact, that's what the Miata and WeeBee are designed for.

Most people just don't do it because one the vehicle simply produces too much power and two they're just not used to high revs.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:24 PM   #43
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Yep, I'm familiar. No ill will intended. Nevertheless, a 300 is a limiting factor, though certainly not a deal breaker. It's a factor. I can have fun on most anything but I prefer really good power and torque, as a rule. It adds to the fun and excitement for most. They're most all fun and, yes, you can make any of them pretty exciting.
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:04 PM   #44
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Make it a 350 single like the mid 70s XL 350 Honda. That was a good engine.

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Real world, public road, there's only so much excitement any bike can provide. The fun is in the twisties and handling as well as staying in the bike's powerband running up and down thru the gears.

I ride some very small tight turns roads and when I keep the WeeBee on the boil, it sure seems exciting to me :)

There's a big difference between using a gear or two and relying on the throttle vs. running thru the gears keeping in the powerband and shifting just below the fuel cutoff.

In the car world, I own a Miata and like the WeeBee, love to flog it without mercy. A well built modern engine with modern oil can take full throtle, full rpm without a problem. In fact, that's what the Miata and WeeBee are designed for.

Most people just don't do it because one the vehicle simply produces too much power and two they're just not used to high revs.
I agree wholeheartedly. Riding my CBR125R is like riding a GP everyday! Using all of the engine, all of the gears, its great fun.
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