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Old 10-22-2013, 09:13 PM   #1
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ID'ing antique hack

Feeling like the American Pickers here. Going thru a pole barn at a barn sale, my son Ted saw an old wheel/fender buried under a bunch of boxes, behind some sheets of plywood. Asked what it was and the person said an old cart of some kind that was missing a wheel. We moved some plywood and lift the boxes off of it. Told the person it wasn't missing a wheel, it was missing two wheels...the two wheels of the motorcycle it would have been attached to. He didn't even know it was a sidecar they had buried back in the corner.



May not look like too much, but inside it was a couple of very old,thick, hard, cracked handlebar grips that said "Indian" along with some old copper oil cans with stampings that were from a company that made them in the early part of the last century.

Scanning the net for antique sidecars and narrowing it down to Indian sidecars, we found that exact wheel/fender on a 1928 Indian sidecar that had a conventional passenger sidecar body. Still searching for more confirmation.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:14 PM   #2
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Here's a pic of the under-carraige/frame:


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Old 10-22-2013, 09:18 PM   #3
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A couple more pics.


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Old 10-22-2013, 09:19 PM   #4
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Anyone with an ideas on identifying this car, feel free to chime in!
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:30 AM   #5
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First tell us if you bought it!
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:53 AM   #6
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Of course I bought it. For the price I paid, if nothing else, it would be a great conversation piece to have on display in the shop.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:10 AM   #7
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I suppose you have spent the last few days looking for 1923 Indians on the web...let us know when you find and buy one...
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:32 AM   #8
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Make it a hardtail so it rides the same as the car.
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:42 AM   #9
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I suppose you have spent the last few days looking for 1923 Indians on the web...let us know when you find and buy one...
My heart and soul say yes....but my wallet says no way.


However...would be willing to accept a donation of one.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:16 PM   #10
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I know it might be hard to tell but does the box look homemade by a carpenter or someone to carry tools or does it look like a factory made job?

Frame look anything like this one?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/juju-b/4757692865/
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I know it might be hard to tell but does the box look homemade by a carpenter or someone to carry tools or does it look like a factory made job?

Frame look anything like this one?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/juju-b/4757692865/
I wouldn't call the box "homemade", unless it was a very skilled craftsman. Looks more like a factory grade build. And it does look like something that was used to carry tools or whatever. Besides the Indian grips that were in it, there was also a couple of copper oil cans and an old, stiff set of leather welding gloves and a small pry bar. In looking up info on old servi-cars before, a common use back than was to make service/repair calls with them. Maybe this was set-up for a similar purpose??

Not quite like that one in the link. The springs on mine mount under the frame rails and the long side of the triangular frame is not curved at the end where it attachs to the other frame rail.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:21 PM   #12
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Here are the grips that were in the box:



The only info I could find on the Durhide leather gauntlet gloves were multiple ads from the late 1920's.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:52 PM   #13
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Appear to have found a pic what appears to be those grips on a bike:



So between the grips, gloves and oil cans....more and more looking like the 1920's era.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:36 PM   #14
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Ok, I've got the frame, has the same springs under the body and the fender is the same

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Old 10-23-2013, 02:59 PM   #15
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That last one is close. Appears to be the samw fender/wheel and that is the only pic I've seen with the front coil springs, which do look like the same mount. The front frame rail is different, curved, not straight. Also can't make out any f/b leaf spring.

This is the pic that got us looking at Indian rigs:


That wheel and fender are a dead ringer for the one we got. Now seeing the front coil spring mounts, even more convinced it is an Indian model.
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