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Old 10-26-2013, 04:01 AM   #31
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On the subject of dealers and parts support.

If SYM made so many Honda bikes in the past, would it be safe to assume some "Honda" parts are on the HD200? Or is the HD200 it own animal all together?
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:49 AM   #32
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On the subject of dealers and parts support.

If SYM made so many Honda bikes in the past, would it be safe to assume some "Honda" parts are on the HD200? Or is the HD200 it own animal all together?
Its of little if any resemblance to a Honda motor.

Parts and dealer support have not been a problem for me ,I've owned SYM products in the past. My dealers are less than 10 miles from either my Florida or Jersey locations.

Both of those dealers also Kymco and Genuine and some china scoots.I guess I'm lucky to have support so close by.

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Old 10-26-2013, 11:20 AM   #33
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From what Ive seen in pictures the rv200 has a huge underseat storage. The pcx that Ive seen in person was pretty lousy.
He asked about the HD200, not RV200. Typically large wheel scooters don't have great underseat storage but of course one can always mount a top box.
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:30 AM   #34
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I have zero experience with SYM. Can't help you there. But I have owned two Honda PCX's.
I put 2400 miles on a PCX125. In less than a year. Mostly commuting but two long weekend trips. I just wish it had another 7 to 8 miles per hour. Sold it for darn near what I paid for it but I got a great winter deal on it when it was new.

Now I have 500 miles on a 2013 PCX150. Bingo. Found those missing MPH I was a looking for. Best I have done is 68 MPH with a Garmin Nuvi 550. Love this little thing. I go 200# and even in windy conditions it holds 60 easy. Both PCX's reeked of Honda quality have never had a single problem with either one,,,,,,

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Old 10-26-2013, 12:09 PM   #35
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I have zero experience with SYM. Can't help you there. But I have owned two Honda PCX's.
I put 2400 miles on a PCX125. In less than a year. Mostly commuting but two long weekend trips. I just wish it had another 7 to 8 miles per hour. Sold it for darn near what I paid for it but I got a great winter deal on it when it was new.

Now I have 500 miles on a 2013 PCX150. Bingo. Found those missing MPH I was a looking for. Best I have done is 68 MPH with a Garmin Nuvi 550. Love this little thing. I go 200# and even in windy conditions it holds 60 easy. Both PCX's reeked of Honda quality have never had a single problem with either one,,,,,,
Thanks for that. The more I look the more I'm seeing PCX's available and fewer SYM HD200's available. I haven't made up my mind yet, still thinking on this one. I've been too fast to pull the trigger , on the first good thing, in the past.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:33 PM   #36
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If you plan to rack up a lot of miles (I have 25,000 on my '08 Vino 125) don't forget about having to tear the PCX apart every 2500 miles to check the valves, about a 3 hour job for a mechanically inclined owner.
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Old 10-26-2013, 03:33 PM   #37
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If you plan to rack up a lot of miles (I have 25,000 on my '08 Vino 125) don't forget about having to tear the PCX apart every 2500 miles to check the valves, about a 3 hour job for a mechanically inclined owner.
This has been deemed highly unnecessary.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:26 PM   #38
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If you plan to rack up a lot of miles (I have 25,000 on my '08 Vino 125) don't forget about having to tear the PCX apart every 2500 miles to check the valves, about a 3 hour job for a mechanically inclined owner.
The PCX125/150 valve adjustment procedure is a $300-$400 job at the Dealer! You'll need half a bucket of tools and some Hondabond or equivalent to complete the job. Would be wise to be familiar with how the plastic body panels come apart.
The Sym HD200 valve adjustment procedure looks simple by comparison.
You'll need a few tools and maybe a couple of new gaskets.
Honda usually sets the standard by which others are compared. In this case, not so much.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:45 PM   #39
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The PCX125/150 valve adjustment procedure is a $300-$400 job at the Dealer! You'll need half a bucket of tools and some Hondabond or equivalent to complete the job. Would be wise to be familiar with how the plastic body panels come apart.
The Sym HD200 valve adjustment procedure looks simple by comparison.
You'll need a few tools and maybe a couple of new gaskets.
Honda usually sets the standard by which others are compared. In this case, not so much.
You should research this topic of valve adjustments on this bike. Folks are going three times the recommended adjustment interval, getting the valve adjustment done and they do not need adjusting.

As a fan of most things two wheels, there is no bias in my above statement.
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:01 PM   #40
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The PCX125/150 valve adjustment procedure is a $300-$400 job at the Dealer! You'll need half a bucket of tools and some Hondabond or equivalent to complete the job. Would be wise to be familiar with how the plastic body panels come apart.
The Sym HD200 valve adjustment procedure looks simple by comparison.
You'll need a few tools and maybe a couple of new gaskets.
Honda usually sets the standard by which others are compared. In this case, not so much.
When we had our break-in service done - at the dealer - the cost was less than $300 for two PCX 150s. ($150 each) I will be doing the service myself from now on. Pick up a set of trim tools at Harbor Freight ($6), a PCX service manual, and learn how to check/adjust the valves. Seems to me that people who don't own a PCX are making more fuss about this than owners.

Don't take this as an endorsement of the PCX over the HD200. BUT, I sure am pleased with our PCXes.

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Old 10-26-2013, 09:10 PM   #41
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http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDfW0zs1b1M
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:40 PM   #42
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I have a 2008 HD 200 that I bought new in May 2009. I have about 18,300 miles on it so far, with no problems. Many of the miles are 2 up, and on the highway. The more I ride it the more I like it. I do have great dealer support in my city if I need it, so far only routine maintenance has been required. I wouldn't hesitate to give a SYM HD a great recommendation.

I can't comment with any personal experience about the PCX, it looks a good in pictures. I would expect the PCX to be a great scooter too.

It would be best for OP to take both for test rides, before deciding which to buy. I doubt you will go wrong with either bike.
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:16 PM   #43
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watching that SYM HD200 valve adjustment video it looks just as much work as the PCX
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:42 AM   #44
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I recently tore down my 2008 HD200 and checked all the valve clearances. It had 8000 miles and had never been checked. It has 4 valves. All were perfect. It wasn't too bad of a job. The right side exhaust was tough to get the feeler gauge in because I didn't remove a lower plastic cover, and I didn't jack the bike up in front. It's been one hell of a good scooter.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:08 AM   #45
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When we had our break-in service done - at the dealer - the cost was less than $300 for two PCX 150s. ($150 each) I will be doing the service myself from now on. Pick up a set of trim tools at Harbor Freight ($6), a PCX service manual, and learn how to check/adjust the valves. Seems to me that people who don't own a PCX are making more fuss about this than owners.

Don't take this as an endorsement of the PCX over the HD200. BUT, I sure am pleased with our PCXes.

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This is where Honda can piss one off. I've had two Kymcos and now the SYM and the break in service was $58.95 for the SYM last month. IMO $150.00 is out of hand for break in service.

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