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Old 11-25-2013, 11:21 AM   #1
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12 Tips For Riding With A Pillion

Some great tips compiled from other riders for riding 2-up.

http://www.spiritstrike.com/blog/201...with-a-pillion
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:47 AM   #2
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Tip 13: Get your own bike.
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:16 PM   #3
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Distance and comfort are key for a new passenger or rider. Plan for a much shorter ride than your ideal, and make sure to recalibrate from what your idea of a 'short ride' is. If they're feeling it, you can always stay out longer.
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Old 11-25-2013, 02:13 PM   #4
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Interesting.

I've only scanned through the article so far, but one thing jumped out at me, "Tape over speedometer."

Reminds me of a girl who used to ride with me occasionally. Of all the people who have ever been on my bike, she was by far the most uncomfortable. In fact, she is the only one who has been uncomfortable. I take great pride that almost without fail, everyone who's ever ridden with me has commented about how safe they felt, and how much smoother and more confident my riding is compared to others they've ridden with. Except this girl. She was very critical of several aspects.

Whenever we'd stop, she would comment about my speed. "We were going 52 through that corner and the speed limit was 45." "Why do you always ride 60 mph?" "You were going 44 when the speed limit dropped to 30."

Now, I'm not a speeder. I don't race around on my bike, I don't get a thrill from going fast. I tend to putter around wherever I go, so it was quite unusual to hear her comments about how fast I was going, and especially when she specifically cited the speedometer.

It occurred to me that instead of enjoying the ride, she stared at the speedometer to make sure I wasn't going too fast, and probably made herself even more nervous. I didn't realize other people do this too.

I'm not sure taping over the speedometer is the answer, but it's informative nonetheless to hear that it might be more common than I thought.

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Old 11-25-2013, 11:43 PM   #5
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Riding passenger on a motorcycle and complaining about the speed is like riding a dolphin and complaining about the water...
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:17 AM   #6
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Tip 13: Get your own bike.
About the only sensible tip. The 12 are mostly a load of codswallop.

Motorcycles are OK for transporting a pillion (or two) for relatively short journeys, but riding two up is no time to show off your skills to the limit. Getting your passenger to the destination smoothly, comfortably, without drama and safely must be the priority.





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Old 11-26-2013, 07:48 AM   #7
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I'm not sure taping over the speedometer is the answer, but it's informative nonetheless to hear that it might be more common than I thought.
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Jamie, I thought about this one too. My FJR is very smooth and I will definitely end up speeding a lot without my speedo. Next time I am going to tape the speedo and use my GPS as a speedo. Its small enough where I don't think she will be able to see it well enough and she won't be able to obsess on the speedo in the dash. Then I am going to try and get her to focus on looking throgh the turns.

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Motorcycles are OK for transporting a pillion (or two) for relatively short journeys, but riding two up is no time to show off your skills to the limit. Getting your passenger to the destination smoothly, comfortably, without drama and safely must be the priority.
No argument there. Definitely not a time to test your skills and you do want them to arrive safely, but we were riding for fun and not really for transportation like your pics suggest. When riding for fun the pillion is much more a part of the ride and experience than a paying passenger, etc.

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Old 11-26-2013, 09:09 AM   #8
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a pillion is a seat. that word's use drives me nuts.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:16 AM   #9
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a pillion is a seat. that word's use drives me nuts.
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A pillion is a mostly British English term for a secondary pad, cushion, or seat behind the main seat or saddle on a horse, motorcycle, bicycle or moped.[1] A passenger in this seat is said to "ride pillion" or may themselves be referred to as a "pillion." The word is derived from the Scottish Gaelic for a "little rug," pillean, which is itself from the Latin pellis for "animal skin."
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:37 AM   #10
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wikipedia is not a dictionary. I'm sure they list it that way because it gets misused so often that it's confusing. the literal meaning is seat, according to every dictionary I've ever seen.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:42 PM   #11
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wikipedia is not a dictionary. I'm sure they list it that way because it gets misused so often that it's confusing. the literal meaning is seat, according to every dictionary I've ever seen.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:44 PM   #12
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It occurred to me that instead of enjoying the ride, she stared at the speedometer to make sure I wasn't going too fast, and probably made herself even more nervous.
She also may have been looking down at the pavement as it rushed by. She's still look down if the speedo was obscured, and it looks like you're traveling at a hundred. Looking out and way ahead cures this.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:02 PM   #13
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wikipedia is not a dictionary. I'm sure they list it that way because it gets misused so often that it's confusing. the literal meaning is seat, according to every dictionary I've ever seen.
Dictionaries don't define how words should be used. They define how words are used, which can and does change with place and time, which is why they are updated from time to time.

Words do have a life, unlike some people, it seems.

English lesson over; I do teach English for a living. Now let this thread come back on topic, which is about riding with a pillion….. or riding with a pillion passenger, for pedants of a more literal bent.

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Old 11-26-2013, 02:00 PM   #14
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Or how about just passenger, for pedants of a less douchebaggy bent. Sorry, I'll stop now. Pet peeve, obviously. Just one of those things where you sound both pretentious and wrong.

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Old 11-26-2013, 03:08 PM   #15
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one other thing (from wikipedia):

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A different dimension on which dictionaries (usually just general-purpose ones) are sometimes distinguished is whether they are prescriptive or descriptive, the latter being in theory largely based on linguistic corpus studies—this is the case of most modern dictionaries. However, this distinction cannot be upheld in the strictest sense. The choice of headwords is considered itself of prescriptive nature; for instance, dictionaries avoid having too many taboo words in that position. Stylistic indications (e.g. ‘informal’ or ‘vulgar’) present in many modern dictionaries is considered less than objectively descriptive as well.[4]
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