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Old 12-09-2013, 04:53 PM   #16
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How about a Mini Cooper S All4 Countryman?
These cars remind me of fat little pigs
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:20 PM   #17
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Jeep Compass and Patriot offer 5 speed and AWD with a lockable center differential. I have 45,000 miles between a 2010 and a 2012.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #18
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:56 PM   #19
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Sorry, we want a new car.................
You can get a new Xterra with 6sp manual.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:04 PM   #20
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I've looked high and low, is Subaru really the only mfgr. that makes all the wheels powered with shifting being done with a clutch by the driver.

MudWife will not relent, she wants AWD and gears that change by her.
Toyota FJ Cruiser has a manual AWD option, though 2014 is the last year for it.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:19 PM   #21
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VW Tiguan 4motion stick shift
There's no such thing. Manual is only available on the front wheel drive Tiguan.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:49 PM   #22
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VW "R" and if you wait a few months the next version of the R will have just under 300 ponies. I had an R32 which is the vehicle the R replaced and the AWD was xlnt and the car was a gas to drive. Utilitarian too.


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Old 12-10-2013, 01:06 AM   #23
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Old 12-10-2013, 03:20 AM   #24
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I owned an 2005 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro 6spd manual for 3 years. Great car, great AWD, it ate tires like a sonofabitch though. Fuel mileage was good for an AWD. I was getting 30-32mpg on long road trips at 75-80 mph, 33-34 mpg if I slowed down to 65mph. I smoked other cars and SUV's in snowy conditions on the road even with the surprisingly low ground clearance.

Powertrain was going strong at 160,000 miles but the rest of the car (read electronic features) were flaking out so I decided to sell it. Very expensive cars to maintain which was my problem. I could afford the car but getting a $1000 maintenance bill was getting old. Nearly impossible to work on onesself due to Audi's affinity for unique tools and non-maintenance friendly designs.

My advice would be to buy or lease one, and then get rid of it at 80,000 miles.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:31 AM   #25
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I owned an 2005 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro 6spd manual for 3 years. Great car, great AWD, it ate tires like a sonofabitch though. Fuel mileage was good for an AWD. I was getting 30-32mpg on long road trips at 75-80 mph, 33-34 mpg if I slowed down to 65mph. I smoked other cars and SUV's in snowy conditions on the road even with the surprisingly low ground clearance.

Powertrain was going strong at 160,000 miles but the rest of the car (read electronic features) were flaking out so I decided to sell it. Very expensive cars to maintain which was my problem. I could afford the car but getting a $1000 maintenance bill was getting old. Nearly impossible to work on onesself due to Audi's affinity for unique tools and non-maintenance friendly designs.

My advice would be to buy or lease one, and then get rid of it at 80,000 miles.
We have done the Audi thing..............we loved it but, we hated the brake/tire eating, glitch prone, expensive service, hard to fix cars. If Audi could make their cars as reliable as Toyota no one would ever stray.

I am wishing Mazda would do a high end 6 awd wagon with a 6-speed diesel. Will this happen?
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:22 AM   #26
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I am wishing Mazda would do a high end 6 awd wagon with a 6-speed diesel. Will this happen?
I would buy one in a heatbeat. Looking to replace my 6 wagon. 160K miles, no problems.
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:31 AM   #27
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A Diesel Stick Shift AWD Wagon is one of those cars that everybody says they would buy, but if some manufacturer sticks their neck out and actually imports them, roughly two people actually step up. The rest will complain that they'd buy if it had a bigger/smaller Nav screen, or smaller wheels, or they really wanted a seven speed stick (unless of course it comes as a seven speed, in which case it turns out they really would have preferred a six speed), or came in a slightly different shade of blue.
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:33 AM   #28
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We are car/wagon folks now...................my/our history

79 Le Carr - Me
79 Fiat Brava 2-door - Me
79 Fiat Brava wagon - me
78 Fiat 124 1800 Convertible - me
80 Rover 3500 SD1 - ours
85 VW Golf - her
84 Range Rover - me
2000 Disco - me
2000 Subaru Brighten wagon - her
2002 VW Jetta 1.8T wagon - her
2002 Audi A4 1.8T wagon - me then hers
1964 Chevy C10 - ours
2005 Subaru Outback wagon - me
2007 Toyota Camry - me
2001 Toyota Avalon - me
2012 Mazda3 Hatch - her current
2004 Toyota Avalon - my current

Damn, I'm going backwards.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:19 AM   #29
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35k for an A4 sedan damn, that's alotta dough............................she would want a wagon too.

If it came with a bow on it she would be happy though.

I won't lease again and I would probably try to buy it and keep it 10 years.

So, I got it narrowed......................the new funky Impreza thing and a base A4. This may sound like a no brainer but, there is $10k just floating around.

So again............,

Wagon.
AWD.
Stick shift.
New.

Only one mfgr. makes this car. Look closely, the other fuckers will give a stick but no awd, just fwd.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:24 AM   #30
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35k for an A4 sedan damn, that's alotta dough............................she would want a wagon too.

If it came with a bow on it she would be happy though.

I won't lease again and I would probably try to buy it and keep it 10 years.

So, I got it narrowed......................the new funky Impreza thing and a base A4. This may sound like a no brainer but, there is $10k just floating around.

So again............,

Wagon.
AWD.
Stick shift.
New.

Only one mfgr. makes this car. Look closely, the other fuckers will give a stick but no awd, just fwd.
The base Cayenne with the manual is the cheapest car Porsche makes. sounds like it's still more than you wan to spend, but it is nice and I think it meets all of you other criteria.
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