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Old 12-11-2013, 04:26 PM   #1
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Question How to buy without a remorse and without a test ride?

Hi,

My Honda 919 just got totaled when an oncoming cager turned left immediately in front of me as I was going straight through a green light. :( Fortunately, I walked away with only bruises.
I really liked the 919, and was hoping to hold on to it for 10 years or so. I'm not terrible demanding, and it was a great all-rounder.
The 919 didn't have too much power for me to handle, but I rarely used most of it, except for maybe being lazy and not downshifting to accelerate and pass someone. Since I'm forced onto the market, I was thinking about getting a slightly smaller bike, but I don't want to go too small and be disappointed. 919s are somewhat hard to find, and the CB1000R is a step higher in power and weight that I don't need. Same for FZ09, Z1000. I like the street triple, but it's also expensive.
Two that I was thinking about were SV650 or the CB500F. I suspect the SV650 would be adequate. CB500F has a good bit less HP and torque, but I don't really know what it feels like to ride the different bikes.
I don't have many friends that ride, so borrowing someone else's bike isn't really an option. I also don't like the idea of test riding a bike off craigslist if I'm not serious about buying the bike - feel it's rude to waste someone else's time like that.

I'd appreciate any ideas about how to make a wise decision about this.

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Old 12-11-2013, 04:40 PM   #2
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You may have some local riders that could let you try their bikes. Post where you are located.
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:01 PM   #3
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You'll be surprised how little you actually need.

What altitude, speeds and loads do you usually ride at?
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Old 12-11-2013, 05:04 PM   #4
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I have a SV 650 and have ridden my buddy's 919.

I wouldn't swap dead even, the SV is lighter and smoother to me.

I went down on mine in January this year. I liked the bike enough that I replaced all of the body work and kept the bike.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:57 PM   #5
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I'm in the SF East Bay. I don't ride for sport, but as a more fun way to get around. I don't "need" more than a 250 cc bike, but would prefer not to feel like I'm on an appliance. The line for everyone is personal, I know.

I ride local, close to sea level, mostly 1up with a small backpack, with the flow of traffic - nothing extreme, but want to be capable on the highway.

If I'm reading specs correctly, the new SFV650 is much heavier than previous.

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Old 12-12-2013, 03:58 AM   #6
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Sounds like GS500 work to me. 375Lb (dry), 50-ish HP and 55mpg.

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Old 12-12-2013, 08:29 AM   #7
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Based on what you've written here is a good list of bikes to look at: SV650, Weestrom, CB500 in various forms, FZ6, Ninja 650, Versys, etc.

Find out which ones you like the looks of and eliminate the rest. For me anyway, if I don't like the looks of the bike I don't buy it. Then start looking for the best deal. Find a good deal and jump on it quick. That way, if you find you don't like it you can always resell it and buy something else.

Unless you are really tall, really short, really heavy, or really picky, any and all of these bikes will be fun to ride and fairly maintenance free.

BTW, congrats on surviving a left turning oblivious driver!
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:52 AM   #8
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At the bottom end, the first bike on the ladder that doesn't have to be ridden like a 250 is the Ninja 300. Roughly as capable motor wise as the old Ninja 500/GS500 bikes. Weighs 379 or so. Hits 90 in pretty quick fashion, cruise at a true GPS 85.

It gets 63 MPG under me with taller than stock gearing, a tune, full exhaust and pod filters when flogged. I'm at about 40 RWHP on it. The F.I. has brought the baby Ninja out of the dark ages. I can't imagine how good the old Ninja 500 would have been with the same upgrades.

It is far from perfect, and needs some stuff right out of the box. If wheelies between corners isn't on your list of must haves, it pretty much does everything else like anything else. You don't have to scream it to go quickly. 4k RPM has plenty of thrust to move it smartly along.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:32 AM   #10
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Hard to beat an SV650 for handling and just being a great all around bike. I mistakenly bought an SV1000 when they came out, loved the power, but in every other aspect, I missed the 650. I sold the 650 to my son, so I could ride it and lament on a regular basis.

If it's got one drawback, it would be the seat, not the most comfortable for extended riding. For under $200, everyone raves about Seat Concepts, so maybe the SV with their seat.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:40 AM   #11
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Do NOT buy a bike without a test ride first.

Better yet rent the bike that you are thinking about.

Test ride one on Craigslist

Or you'll be sorry
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:19 AM   #12
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Agreed, why would you buy anything without test riding it?
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:30 AM   #13
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What about the Ninja 650?
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:51 AM   #14
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Agreed, why would you buy anything without test riding it?
I did.......only once. Big mistake.

Had the bike for only one season- sold it at a loss.

NEVER again.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:30 PM   #15
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Do NOT buy a bike without a test ride first.

Better yet rent the bike that you are thinking about.

Test ride one on Craigslist

Or you'll be sorry
Almost all dealers I know of don't let people do test rides like car dealers do. I can kind of understand with the customers who refuse to buy a bike with 50 miles on the odometer and insist on a "new" one.

I'm not going to jerk someone on Craigslist for a test ride when I'm not serious about buying the bike, and I would hope someone wouldn't do it it me. I just consider it rude.


Who rents bikes like a SV650 or CB500F? (Seriously, this is not a rhetorical question.)



Also, I want a "standard" bike. I expressly don't want fairings, and I want an upright seating position vice the forward seating of a sportbike - even if it's not a supersport.
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