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Old 12-14-2013, 05:59 PM   #31
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I'd like spend around what I got from insurance (~$5k). Could be convinced to spend a bit more, but not a lot. Obviously, I'm thinking slightly used.
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:14 AM   #32
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I bought a bike this summer without much of a test ride. I had never even really seen one before I went to buy it.

Live in Indy and drove to Chattanooga (about 7 hours each way) to buy a bike I had never ridden. Did take a short ride on it before signing the papers to confirm that the bike was as advertised. It was. And lets be honest, after driving all that way, was I seriously going to just leave it there unless there were undisclosed mechanical issues? The bike was as advertised and ABHulgan (ADV rider) was a standup guy to do business with.

I had wanted an SV650 curvey since they came out based on looks and magazine reviews and found this one listed on ADV. Had upgraded springs and rear shock and several other nice upgrades. It was in great shape.

So how did it work out? To be honest, I spent the first six weeks thinking, "What have I done?" The riding position, often described as up-right, really wasn't--even after I put slightly higher bars on it. More up-right than others? Sure, but not as upright as I was expecting and not nearly as upright as any bike I have owned (not that many-five over a period of twenty years.)

The throttle seemed way to touchy and the seat was an instrument of torture. On the other hand, the engine is really the jewel everybody claimed and the ride--with the upgraded shocks-- was excellent.

The point of all this? I bought one without more than about 10 minutes on it and I was fairly sure I had screwed up for the first several weeks of ownership. The good news is, my thinking changed as I got more seat time. Now I have every expectation that the SV will be the main bike in my garage for a very long time. I feel lucky to own the bike.

I guess the question is, how long a test ride are you going to get on somebody else's bike? 10 minutes was not enough for me to really figure out whether I was going to like the bike--took me weeks to figure that out.

What I learned was initial reactions won't really tell you the truth about the bike you are going to buy. Time reveals whether you are going to bond with the bike.

My other take away? Find a bike priced so that you can sell it on without taking a beating financially if you just don't click with it.

And by the way, as far as your bike of choice? Let's just say, I spent a week in SF for vacation this summer and just kept thinking, "Man, I'd LOVE to have the SV out here!" Take a ride on one (recommend the Naked, not the S, for your stated style of riding.) Betting you'd like it. A recommendation from a guy who rides in the manner you say you do.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:24 AM   #33
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I have a CB500X and a SV650s in my garage right now; if you do decide to go Suzuki, iMO the standard SV is a much better choice than the S, based on riding position. That being said, if I was heading on a long road trip tomorrow, I would take the X without hesitation; that Honda engine is a jewel.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:10 AM   #34
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The ER6n was a one or two year USA bike but I think it is still sold overseas. Same basic bike as the Ninja 650, and neither gets much respect so the prices are usually pretty low compared to bikes of the same vintage. Yeah, a 15 year old SV will be cheaper, and since they were here forever there will be more of them.
Yep. '08 and '09. There's one at a local dealer that looks new, couple thousand miles, $3999. Sorta ugly, but they are probably the best bang for the buck right now in used bikes. That Kawi 650 is the best street motor I've used.
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:38 AM   #35
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On a big ticket items there is always a risk of buyers remorse unless you "know" that's what you really want and what you're buying. One good way to avoid remorse is if you don't have the "cash" don't buy it. No bike is perfect for everyone on all occasions period. There's always things you'll find that you don't like but likely work around. The real remorse comes in when you discover that gee this isn't what I thought it'd be and you're still writing monthly payment checks. Financing a bike for years in this unstable economy is setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:53 AM   #36
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I have a CB500X and a SV650s in my garage right now; if you do decide to go Suzuki, iMO the standard SV is a much better choice than the S, based on riding position. That being said, if I was heading on a long road trip tomorrow, I would take the X without hesitation; that Honda engine is a jewel.

I agree that the naked is better for me than the sv650s. Can you explain more about the differences between the sv650 and cb500x? I've read so many great things about the sv650 engine. What makes you like the cb500x ride?




Radianrider,

I'm not up on the sv650 lingo. Is the "curvy" the sv650s, or is even the standard less upright than you were expecting? What bikes are you comparing the ergos to?

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Old 12-15-2013, 10:03 AM   #37
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Price....

Based on what you're looking to pay, you're looking for a used bike...even when just kicking tires, I've never had a dealer say "no" to a test ride on one of theirs. There's gotta be a good selection of dealers in the Bay Area, I'd make the rounds and take a ride on as many different bikes as you think you might like.
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Old 12-15-2013, 10:18 AM   #38
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I agree that the naked is better for me than the sv650s. Can you explain more about the differences between the sv650 and cb500x? I've read so many great things about the sv650 engine. What makes you like the cb500x ride?




Radianrider,

I'm not up on the sv650 lingo. Is the "curvy" the sv650s, or is even the standard less upright than you were expecting? What bikes are you comparing the ergos to?

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The curvy is the first gen, 1999-2002. Second gen bikes are called pointy.
S models have clip-on's and higher rear sets than a naked SV.

I have put 20,000 miles in the last 2 years on this bike, 2006 naked.

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Old 12-15-2013, 10:32 AM   #39
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It might be worth calling them to see if it's still available, but Scuderia in SF has a Ducati Multi 1000 for $4500, an Aprillia Tuono 1000 for 4500 and a BMW K1200RS for $4000. Granted, all are bigger than you want, and the Ape is probably too sporty, but the Multi and the K-bike would be pretty upright and the BMW looks like it comes with hard cases.
I can't speak for everyone, but I think they're an awesome group of folks who really love bikes. They're definitely customer service oriented and they want customers to be happy.

My local dealer, G & B, has a Kawi ZR-7S with soft bags for $3K. 205xx miles, but I had close to 50K miles on my Ninja 9 when I sold it, and it still ran like a scalded dog. Kawi makes a pretty solid motor, so I wouldn't worry too much about 20K miles. The nice thing is it'd leave you with some money for mods or any maintenance that it needed.

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Old 12-15-2013, 10:44 AM   #40
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To me, the SV650s makes me feel like I'm sitting on two different bikes; from the waist down I feel like it's a standard, but from the waist up feels like a sport bike, like I should either bring the bars up or the pegs back... The SV650 has a great riding position out of the crate.

The SV engine is legendary, and rightly so, as millions of Vstrom and SV riders can attest, and I love mine, but the CB has an engine that defies logic. It compares in smoothness to my SV like my SV compares to my DR650; it doesn't have the instant torque of the Vtwin, but I have no problems hanging with anyone in the twisties. I bought mine in CO, rode through UT, NM, AZ, then from Amarillo to Little Rock, held it between 75-80 for hours on end, avg 63 mpg, fully loaded with camping gear. The CB is much more capable than it's 500cc would suggest; I'm very happy with it as my primary bike, and I've had a 919, t bird, Bonneville, NH750's, etc.

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Old 12-15-2013, 10:50 AM   #41
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That is a sweet SV!!!
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:07 AM   #42
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Most of my bikes have been enduro with a sit-up-and-beg seating position. I've owned a Yamaha Radian and my other bike currently is a Suzuki GR650 with dirt bike bars on it.

I put Daytona bars on my SV and some bar risers and my riding position seems way better to me now, more like Trashcan's picture. Not sure if he is just taller than me, but he seems more upright than my riding position.

Mine is a first generation SV, as noted above--called a curvey. The second pic has a top case mounted on a backup rear seat pan. Set up for commuting with that on the bike. I just swapped the seats out when I don't need to haul anything.


That CB sounds like a sweet ride too.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:35 AM   #43
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Dogjaw,
Can you give any comparison between the 919 and the CB500?


Thanks for the suggestions from everyone. Fortunately, I don't feel I need to rush in a decision, so I can take my time and look around the dealerships, hopefully get some test rides and pull the trigger when I find the right one.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:06 PM   #44
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As i read the OPs post I thought of the FZ6 and the suzuki GSX650F with the edge to the suzuki for being full faired and about 6k new. Both are inline 4.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:11 PM   #45
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I loved my 919, and the only reason I sold it was I got so heavily into modding my DR650, a decision I regret to this day, though I ride the CB500X just as fast as the 9er, it just carries it's power differently... they are very similar in their smooth, almost electric power. I love 'em both, really think the the CB did a bit better on extended highway sections, as odd as that may sound.
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