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Old 12-22-2013, 01:17 PM   #31
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BMW had a 650 at the time, why didn't they give them one of those?
Because BMW can make a lot more money by getting folks excited about bigger bikes and having them buy them.
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:42 PM   #32
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Assuming I would be travelling with the support crew they had - I would take two bikes.

BMW GS for tarmac, and something like a KTM 690 Enduro or 500 Exc for the primitive roads.

Best of both worlds.

If I was taking only one bike - and I was going to ride the roads they rode - then probably a big KTM. I think Charlie was right, and I can certainly understand KTM's reluctance to sponsor them.
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:47 PM   #33
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I'd be quite happy on my old Africa Twin.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:11 PM   #34
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If I was taking only one bike - and I was going to ride the roads they rode - then probably a big KTM. I think Charlie was right, and I can certainly understand KTM's reluctance to sponsor them.
I never did get a definitive answer on why they backed out. I though it was either a money thing, or they didn't think their bikes would make it.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:19 PM   #35
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I never did get a definitive answer on why they backed out. I though it was either a money thing, or they didn't think their bikes would make it.
It was because KTM decided that the route across Russia was too much with one of them being inexperienced and being KTM's and probably worried about one of them making KTM look bad and someone with lots of money being hurt in the rough going. They were wrong.
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:03 PM   #36
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'81 XV-920 Yamaha of course, wouldn't anyone ?
plus's enclosed chain, go around the world without adjustment.Smoothish V-twin hums along on the slab.Pack mule, pile it on.
minus's Heavy,low, not really mud friendly.



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Old 12-22-2013, 07:27 PM   #37
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It was because KTM decided that the route across Russia was too much with one of them being inexperienced and being KTM's and probably worried about one of them making KTM look bad and someone with lots of money being hurt in the rough going. They were wrong.
What's sad is that KTM Adventure would have been such a better choice, although still not even close to what I'd take. Fucking Euwan was so dead set on the BMW too, he had no idea what he was getting himself into.
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:30 PM   #38
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I've never even watched the vid. Too busy riding.
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:37 PM   #39
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What's sad is that KTM Adventure would have been such a better choice, although still not even close to what I'd take. Fucking Euwan was so dead set on the BMW too, he had no idea what he was getting himself into.
Bullshit.They were way overloaded,The KTM would have been no better,maybe worse.And you right Ewan had no idea.
But without Ewan there would have been no show for us to cry and whinge about
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:49 PM   #40
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'81 XV-920 Yamaha of course, wouldn't anyone ?
plus's enclosed chain, go around the world without adjustment.
I really wish manufacturers would get over their dislike of enclosed chains, especially on an ADV bike.

Surely they could could come up with something funky looking for the fashionistas.
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Old 12-22-2013, 08:04 PM   #41
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I'd be quite happy on my old Africa Twin.
Plus 1. My Africa Twin (RD07A) is a bit heavy, but feels much lighter than a GS1200. And I love it.
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Old 12-22-2013, 08:12 PM   #42
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KLR or DL650 Strom

I have owned a KLR and currently a DL650. I'd take the KLR for ease of repair and lighter. If I had some support crew I'd take the DL650, it's heavier and not good in mud but decent on most everything else, reliable and eats up the slab with comfort.
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Old 12-22-2013, 08:28 PM   #43
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I'd be quite happy on my old Africa Twin.
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Plus 1. My Africa Twin (RD07A) is a bit heavy, but feels much lighter than a GS1200. And I love it.
I think so too. Did a search and its one if the common models for rent in Mongolia. IMHO this area of the trip is where you want accessibility to spares. Central or Eastern Europe or the US....nope.
Eastern Russia and Mongolia for sure you want to ride what the locals ride.
Plus Honda is proven to be reliable and has a great network worldwide. It's lighter than the BMW and prob do better in the mud.
This rental company seems interesting:
http://www.motorbikemongolia.com/mot...h-planeta.html
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:49 PM   #44
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BMW had a 650 at the time, why didn't they give them one of those?
Well the big GS ΄boom΄ really exploded right after LWR, and now it is the best selling large-capacity motorcycle model in the world. BMW just like any other manufacturer, wants to sell as many bikes as they can, and especially big bikes is where the profit is.

So to me it looks like they did exactly the right thing by giving them big GS΄es.

KTM on the other hand blew it big time by refusing to sponsor them. Reminds me of that one record company manager, who turned down a young Beatles in early 60΄s.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:37 AM   #45
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I'd be quite happy on my old Africa Twin.
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