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Old 12-24-2013, 01:35 PM   #76
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Old 12-24-2013, 01:58 PM   #77
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"I don't think they inspired the whole RTW thing - it's been going on for decades !"

They surely did not invent it.

But they brought the idea of such trips to the masses. I'm pretty certain some people have actually got the spark to go RTW from them. That can't be a bad thing.
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Old 12-24-2013, 02:02 PM   #78
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Loaded like I would load it, a DR 350. Carrying all the crap these guys carried, a DR 650.
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:14 PM   #79
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ok then .... and that's what these are, Entertainment ! .... we can agree on that.

again, not a bad thing - but not true ADV riding

I don't think they inspired the whole RTW thing - it's been going on for decades ! .... Ted Simon, Clem Salvadori, Emilio Scoto and many many more were doing this long before the Internet came to be it's just that now everyone can tell everyone what they are doing.

and the BMW GS' are indeed the #1 choice
Just to be clear: I did not state that they inspired the whole RTW thing. Those are your words. I stated they inspired RTW travel, and riders here in ADV have inspired as well.

And what is YOUR definition of adventure riding? It might be different than other views on this, including KTM, BMW and other manufacturers view on the subject (and to whom they target their products as well).
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Old 12-24-2013, 06:07 PM   #80
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They inspired a lot. Most rider's ego's are just too big to realize it.

This is probably a re-post but the spoofs are hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xorQyl121I

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Old 12-24-2013, 10:49 PM   #81
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They inspired a lot. Most rider's ego's are just too big to realize it.

This is probably a re-post but the spoofs are hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xorQyl121I
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Old 12-25-2013, 08:54 AM   #82
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Pretty sure they ment the 950 adv... That bike is pretty bullet proof and would have been my choice for sure
Now that's funny.
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Old 12-25-2013, 11:02 AM   #83
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E & c

... if you love Ewan and Charlie, that's great. I did like him as Obi-Wan yes

I reviewed their LWR book over the holidays, and realized they only covered 12 countries, no Africa, no South America, no Mexico, no Australia/NZ. They only rode about 16K miles, the rest were flights and trains ?

The KTM/BMW thing is very interesting, and covered in great detail - basically KTM got very nervous while BMW said that's exactly what our bikes are built for - good for them!

Finally, in 2002 when they were planning they considered only three bikes, the two mentioned plus .... Honda TA/AT !

all the bikes mentioned here except KLR came after .....

ps: I am new to ADV ... but not to riding - well over 250,000 kms of touring covering western N.A.
(lots of camping, a bit of gravel, but no support vehicles, no GPS, no Internet most of the time, and self financed)

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Old 12-25-2013, 12:22 PM   #84
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they only covered 12 countries, no Africa, no South America, no Mexico, no Australia/NZ. They only rode about 16K miles, the rest were flights and trains ?
Someone correct, if I΄m wrong, but that still qualifies as "Round the world" doesn΄t it?

In fact I did a trip from Finland to Australia on a bike 6 years ago, and that was longer, nearly 22k miles, and went through 15 countries, but that wasn΄t RTW, because I did not leave home to the east, and return from the west, or v.v. But a great trip nonetheless, and one that I΄ll never forget.

(And E & C later on did similar trips to Africa for example, didn΄t they?)
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Old 12-25-2013, 01:19 PM   #85
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Someone correct, if I΄m wrong, but that still qualifies as "Round the world" doesn΄t it?

In fact I did a trip from Finland to Australia on a bike 6 years ago, and that was longer, nearly 22k miles, and went through 15 countries, but that wasn΄t RTW, because I did not leave home to the east, and return from the west, or v.v. But a great trip nonetheless, and one that I΄ll never forget.

(And E & C later on did similar trips to Africa for example, didn΄t they?)
They never claimed it was rtw,just a long ride
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Old 12-25-2013, 02:30 PM   #86
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They never claimed it was rtw,just a long ride
Well if you go Europe > Russian Far East > North America > Europe, is that not RTW?

(...or was that what they did - I've never seen the show?)
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:05 PM   #87
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There is a young German Couple (www.timetoride.de) who have done a lot of Ewan and Charlie's trip.. just about to leave Australia now to head to NZ and then Chile.

Their bikes of choice are two 25 year old Honda Trans Alps. Helmut and Bea have rebuilt these bikes (over 1000 hours per machine) and they have both been superbly reliable.

They have just spent a week with us here in Australia cleaning the bikes for shipping to NZ.

Both bikes feature Arica Twin fuel tanks and swing arms and they just keep going.

I ride a Super Ten 1200 and would never have thought of a TA for a trip like this.

Read their website and look at the bike prep. Amazing.

He found some tool boxes for 60 Euros each (they look like panniers) and made his own SS mounting racks for them, made his own sump guard/bash plate too.

His only complaint was lack of power for passing sometimes in the alps as they are carrying 70 kgs of stuff with them.

AS he said.. no injection.. dirty fuel means a I can fix it at the side of the road. (Only happened once.. here in Australia)
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:21 PM   #88
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Well if you go Europe > Russian Far East > North America > Europe, is that not RTW?

(...or was that what they did - I've never seen the show?)
My post was a reply to hwunger sorry
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Old 12-25-2013, 04:27 PM   #89
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His only complaint was lack of power for passing sometimes in the alps as they are carrying 70 kgs of stuff with them.
They should have used a proper ADV bike

http://www.r1goesextreme.com/index.p...id=229&lang=en



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Old 12-25-2013, 07:03 PM   #90
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I'd call the LWR ride a RTW, but, I'm not picky ,what I am is envious. Not of the free bikes,support crew, or other perks, but, just of the fact that , they were living my dream, damn it .
Others have strict rules for what they call a circumnavigation of the planet. In their rules it says that you must cross the equator twice in your journeys.
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