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Old 12-25-2013, 09:55 PM   #91
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Old 12-25-2013, 10:22 PM   #92
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Sjaak Lucassen is the real deal nutter on that R1.

I loved the Long Way Round series and I thought that it was with way less support than the LW Down. LWD had loads of fixers and support, but I enjoyed as well. I think anyone who can muscle those big Beemers around the planet fully loaded can take credit for what they did. No small task, despite help financially and from the support crew. You could tell Charley and Ewan lost a few lbs by the end of Long Way Round. They also had a few sketchy encounters along the way.

They had good support from BMW: it was a risk that paid off well for them. They deserve the good marketing / advertising they paid for. And for all those who won't ride a BMW: look at all the great ADV bikes on the market as a result.

What bike would I take? I'm a taller guy, physically fit and like the big adventure bikes. I'm thinking the Super Tenere, though I only lust after one and don't have any road time on one yet. Comfort, reliability and cool factor gets my vote - it is a trip of a lifetime, after all. The big GS and KTM would also be awesome. My pal's GSA is all day comfy and a great riding machine. From what I've read though, the Super Ten seems to be the most reliable. I'd rather be swilling a beer at the end of a ride than wrenching. If my impression of its superior reliability is wrong try not to flame on me too badly...
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Old 12-26-2013, 10:23 AM   #93
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anyway let's move on .... yes the guy on the R1 was pretty cool ! ... someone also did Baja in 24 hrs on an R1.

do you guys know about Jim Rogers 'investment biker' ? .... 1994 true RTW on an airhead Beemer with GF ! and no support, but lots of his own money - great read, basically cell phone and credit card, fancy resorts when he could, about 60K miles.

and then Canadian Rene Cormier 'U of Gravel Roads' about 2002, five years with one working year in between .... another true RTW guy again on a BMW 650 thumper, about 95K miles.

met him at a BMW thing a few years back - very modest man.

there are many others ....
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Old 12-26-2013, 11:39 AM   #94
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A DR 650, without any doubt.
I've done trips on a 1200 GS and F658, and a DR650. For being far from home with no back up, the DR gets the nod. It's reasonably comfortable, with a new seat and windshield, can take on the gnarliest trails, and is dead reliable.
Did 3000 miles on one trip through Mexico and there were times the other bikes would just not have made it through. As for the long slabs; cruising at 70 to 75 was not bad. Plus it's easier to pick up.
I never had any problems with the BMWs, but there are more things that could go wrong with them that are not easily fixed in remote areas.






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Old 12-26-2013, 01:12 PM   #95
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I'd probably take a prepped Honda CB550. Maybe a 750 Nighthawk.

Both would be a lot easier to manage than any super tanker ADV bike. Easy to service anywhere in the world. Common and cheap tire sizes. Both are fast enough for first world traffic but neither draws a lot of attention in less developed areas. Wayyyyyy more low key than a decked out $25,000 bike with another several thousand dollars in electronic shit festooned all over it.

If you ride a loaded GSA or KTM, while wearing a thousand dollar Schuberth, 3 grand worth of Ruuka gear and staring at your GPS as you trundle through third world villages....you sort of deserve being ass raped and sold for ransom by the locals.
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Old 12-26-2013, 01:17 PM   #96
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Triumph Tiger 800 or BMW F800GS.

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Old 12-26-2013, 01:35 PM   #97
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I must be the only inmate here who has never seen this show.


Regardless, the correct answer to any motorcycling question is DR650.
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Old 12-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #98
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A good old ural (patrol or ranger) with a BMW (R71) engine in it :o) gotta love the two wheel drive for offroad sections and enough space in the sidecar to take a lot of crap with you... more over they come with a spare vodka bottle "just in case" "if" you face hard times. Can't beat that!
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Old 12-26-2013, 05:12 PM   #99
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I must be the only inmate here who has never seen this show.


Regardless, the correct answer to any motorcycling question is DR650.
If you watch with an open mind, it's good entertainment and a million times better than what else is on TV right now.
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Old 12-26-2013, 07:51 PM   #100
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Each red dot and balloon shows a dealer. I know for a fact that this misses some, but the point is the proportional difference in brand-related support for BMW and a typical Japanese brand, in this case showing Yamaha.



So I'd go with the DR650 or start outside of the US with a XT660Z.
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Old 12-26-2013, 09:15 PM   #101
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If you ride a loaded GSA or KTM, while wearing a thousand dollar Schuberth, 3 grand worth of Ruuka gear and staring at your GPS as you trundle through third world villages....you sort of deserve being ass raped and sold for ransom by the locals.
Yikes! I'll take a JiaLing 125cc please and wear really thick jeans with a locking belt.
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Old 12-26-2013, 10:39 PM   #102
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Each red dot and balloon shows a dealer. I know for a fact that this misses some, but the point is the proportional difference in brand-related support for BMW and a typical Japanese brand, in this case showing Yamaha.



So I'd go with the DR650 or start outside of the US with a XT660Z.
I think Google may just be underestimating the YAMAHA network SLIGHTLY.
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Old 12-27-2013, 04:09 AM   #103
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Likewise the BMW network.
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Old 12-27-2013, 04:33 AM   #104
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Likewise the BMW network.
BMW doesn΄t sell millions of tiny scooters all over Asia, so their dealer support may be a lot further away.

That said, not many Asian dealers will stock parts for any big bikes, they stock parts for those scooters mostly. But if you just carry a spare part book of your bike with you, and it΄s a common model sold in lots of places, should be no problem to order parts.
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Old 12-27-2013, 05:09 AM   #105
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Another mission for the mythic WR450R...

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