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Old 01-26-2014, 02:45 PM   #46
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Are you aware of the Macna Chameleon?
It's a twin-shell system (a la Companero), core leather jacket with laminated waterproof overjacket.
I'm currently looking for a wide temperature range leather jacket that is waterproof. Do you have the Macna Chameleon and if so do you like it. I'm also looking at a revit ignition 2 and if you have any experience with it could you say how the two jackets compare? Thanks.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:58 PM   #47
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I'm only an armchair motorcycle tourist having only lived off the bike for about two weeks total.

That said I've ridden for years and I've done a decent amount of traveling, camping and exploring.

I've put a decent amount of thought into what gear I would bring if I was setting out on a motorcycle tour.

I have had a number of different 3/4 length touring style jackets. Oilskin, leather and textile.
Each of them have pros and cons.

I do not like logos, I don't like flashy colorways, (high viz gear notwithstanding)

I like layering, and flexibility I like gear to serve more then one purpose.

Also when it comes to rain gear, I've found that i like the waterproof layer to be the outermost layer when it comes to jacket and pants. And I don't like to stop and struggle to put on a rain jacket.

If I was to set out on South American tour today.
Most likely I would go with an Aerostich Darien or Darien light jacket. In tan with the reflective delete option.
And I would try and see if I could get the older style sleeves without the added straps, just to make the jacket look more normal.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:24 AM   #48
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Do you have the Macna Chameleon and if so do you like it. I'm also looking at a revit ignition 2 and if you have any experience with it could you say how the two jackets compare? Thanks.
I don't own or have any experience with these 2 jackets, unfortunately.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:48 PM   #49
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I have had a number of different 3/4 length touring style jackets. Oilskin, leather and textile.
Each of them have pros and cons.

I do not like logos, I don't like flashy colorways, (high viz gear notwithstanding)

I like layering, and flexibility I like gear to serve more then one purpose.

Also when it comes to rain gear, I've found that i like the waterproof layer to be the outermost layer when it comes to jacket and pants. And I don't like to stop and struggle to put on a rain jacket.

If I was to set out on South American tour today.
Most likely I would go with an Aerostich Darien or Darien light jacket. In tan with the reflective delete option.
Thinking much the same. Not big fan of the Aerostich style though but sure it's good stuff. That said, the Darien pants is on my short list for pants, like the simple design and lot of nice features. Tan color looks desert-ish.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:56 PM   #50
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Another option. Probably better abrasion restistance than oilskin

http://shop.ridejohndoe.com/kevlar-a...ve-j-2003.html



EDIT: Forgot already posted this...but now with pics
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:57 PM   #51
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Brilliant, thanks !

Like this one from first link. Simple but stylish and lots of nive features like big pit and back vents.

That's a good looking jacket! I don't like a lot of branding either.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:44 PM   #52
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Thinking much the same. Not big fan of the Aerostich style though but sure it's good stuff. That said, the Darien pants is on my short list for pants, like the simple design and lot of nice features. Tan color looks desert-ish.
Style, I think the Darien is the total absence of style.
But it is highly functional

I like that the tan looks more normal, and less like a high zoot adv-suit.
While not dipping into the OD-Green quasi uniform look that some of these jackets have.
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Old 01-27-2014, 05:51 PM   #53
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Well I just ordered a macna chameleon. Should be here in a few days, if the thread is still active I'll voice my opinions.
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:27 PM   #54
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Well I just ordered a macna chameleon. Should be here in a few days, if the thread is still active I'll voice my opinions.
Waiting with interest.
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:26 PM   #56
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Still thinking about making a less adventure looking Version of the Companero set up...

This Dainese mesh jacket got leather on outside of arms/shoulders, looks good and definitely improves abrasion resistance. Maybe not quite casual looking but still cool.

Also possible to add chest protector and back protector so getting closer to a pressure suit regarding protection. Though, the back protector is a bit short so may want a kidneybelt with integrated back protector to cover lower back (got acouple of those), Guess good for bumpy roads anyway. And supports back.

So all I need is wp abrasion resistant shell for cold/wet on top of this.

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbi...le.html?cat=12

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Old 01-29-2014, 03:10 PM   #57
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So all I need is wp abrasion resistant shell for cold/wet on top of this.
I'd skip the abrasion-resistant part and just get an inexpensive waterproof shell to put over it. The Dainese jacket should provide the abrasion resistance.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:52 PM   #58
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Did you say an Adventure jacket that did not look like an adventure jacket?
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:09 PM   #59
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Just have to ride fast enough to make the vents work

As mentioned, for those conditions I thought maybe using Spidi Multitech Armor jacket (and not planning to use either of the liners really)

http://www.spidi.com/eu/eu_en/textil...ech-armor.html



"A full vented mesh jacket, to be used as a stand-alone garment during summer and underneath technical or non-technical garments during Winter"

So if hot: only this one (or maybe a thin shirt on top so doesn't look like SWAT)

When colder: oil skin jacket over (witout armour).

Rain/Cold: Either rain jacket or something like KLIM Traverse, with or without Oil skin jacket. Armour jacket under.

Town/short trips/casual: Oil skin jacket (and use the armour jacket protectors in the oil skin jacket if feel neccessary).

Just trying to find combination which is easy to adapt and mix/match to any conditions while avoiding unneccessary number of clothes by multi use like Oil skin for bike/casual and soft shell as mid layer and casual jacket.

Maybe over complicating a bit here, but as mentioned, plenty of time so just playing with different ideas for now.
Although it looks quite cool in warmer weather. I would be concerned about the abrasion resistance if wore alone.
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:12 PM   #60
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Although it looks quite cool in warmer weather. I would be concerned about the abrasion resistance if wore alone.
Yes, it does say that stand alone jacket on Spidi web site but seen other Places questioning this. That's why started looking at mesh jackets and really like the part leather concept (got that on my Stadler suit as well). something reassuring about leather...

I'm not quite as cool as 007 unfortunately
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