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Old 01-12-2014, 09:50 AM   #16
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Dude, you've either gone too far with the hair of the dog thing, or you're too hungover to process. 1190 stock rims are spoked tube-less. Right now, tube-less dirt tires for 150 width rears 18 inch rims are scarce in the US, and Woody doesn't have a firm option, though they are working on it...

HAHA...right on. See I didn't know that about the 1190
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Old 01-12-2014, 02:34 PM   #17
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HAHA...right on. See I didn't know that about the 1190
Ha Ha, it's all good. New bike blues. The 1190 is so good on road from the factory, that I'm waiting for Woody to send me a big bill with a new set of wheels for off road adventuring and Moab exploring...
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Old 01-12-2014, 02:56 PM   #18
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1190tires

The Heidenau k60 Scout is a great all around tire, and don't be too concerned about the solid center block unless you spend time in deep sand/mud...
Nobody has mentioned Mefo tires. I used them on my 950S for the western TAT, and they were great. Surprisingly good on pavement, as well.

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Southwest Moto Tires
www.swmototires.com/
Southwest Moto Tires carries top brands for motorcycles, ATV's and scooters such as: Metzeler, Pirelli, Dunlop, Michelin®, Bridgestone, Avon, ITP, Maxxis, Mefo, ...

Don't know if the Mefos are tubeless or not...

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EDIT- Just checked swmototires, and they don't seem to carry Mefo tires anymore...
I'll just go with the Heidenau K60s...
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:30 PM   #19
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Heidenau's are ok for on road but in any kind of slime...well, they suck. That center rolling strip is like a patch of ice in wet grass.

Mefo's were mentioned above, so far, I can't find those in tubeless

Colin at MX1Canada has confirmed that the tubeless Mitas 150/70-18 tires do work on the 1190's rear wheel.

I've ordered an E09 rear and TKC 80 Front...will report soon.
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Old 02-02-2014, 06:26 AM   #20
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Ok...so I got a Mitas E09 and a TKC 80 fitted up. They work great, look great and so far, they are excellent both on road and off. Here's a photo of the bike with it's new shoes:



BTW, if anyone wants a set of the original Continental TrailAttack2's, I'm selling the take-offs with 100 miles on them in the FleaMarket. See Here:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=951738
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:13 AM   #21
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The Heidenaus's look like the best match for the R model for dirt/road split.



+1 Im happy with my Heidi's. I did mount the front on backwards.

Note Anyone interested in my stock tires - Continental TrailAttack2's, PM me I have about 80 miles on them.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:23 AM   #22
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Why backwards?

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+1 Im happy with my Heidi's. I did mount the front on backwards.
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Old 02-02-2014, 01:47 PM   #23
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Ok...so I got a Mitas E09 and a TKC 80 fitted up. They work great, look great and so far, they are excellent both on road and off. Here's a photo of the bike with it's new shoes:



BTW, if anyone wants a set of the original Continental TrailAttack2's, I'm selling the take-offs with 100 miles on them in the FleaMarket. See Here:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=951738
i'm doing the exact same thing this week! i put 350 miles on the trail attacks in the last 3 days--all street. i'll take it off road at the end of the week with the tkc/mitas e09 dakar and report back.
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:02 PM   #24
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I have a 2013 ktm 1190 R with pirelli AT 90, in mud is quite similar to heidenau 60. Offroad are brear. Highway over 180km/h there are vibrations. ON road are quite nice.

In my last GS1200 i had tkc80, there were too much for offroad. In orden to use them at 100% you would break the bike before... ON top of that ON road is too risky with tck80. So heidenau and pirelli
Are a nice compromise.

My problem is to find the setting for the suspension for offroad, if i fix sport settings i arrive to the limit immediately.

Any ideas? Thanks

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Old 02-02-2014, 07:39 PM   #25
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Why backwards?
Because the K60 Front has a problem with cupping/scaloping and getting noisy if you run it the way is says to. The Mefo super explorer has the front and rear tread pattern running the same way and the K60 has you running the patterns opposite.
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Old 02-03-2014, 04:59 AM   #26
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Because the K60 Front has a problem with cupping/scaloping and getting noisy if you run it the way is says to. The Mefo super explorer has the front and rear tread pattern running the same way and the K60 has you running the patterns opposite.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:45 PM   #27
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Thanks for posting

coloktmgs: I was unaware Mitas offered a tubeless 09 front and rear for 21/18 wheel sets like our R 1190's.

I will be very interested in your report as I have been looking for an alternative to the TKC and Heidi offerings.

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Old 02-06-2014, 05:09 PM   #28
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I've got a set of Kenda Big Blocks that the new owner of my 990 didn't want. I plan to see if they seal on my 1190 R. People run them on BMW's which are tubeless.
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:48 PM   #29
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Ok, sorry for the naive question: but what IS the difference of tubeless vs tubed tires? I know the bm's have the spokes on the outside aspect of the rim, while the 1190 has them laced like a "normal" tubed tire. Waiting for the weather to clear so I can ride the 1190 R the local dealership has.
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Ok, sorry for the naive question: but what IS the difference of tubeless vs tubed tires?
Not very much AFAIK. Perhaps softer rubber in the sealing portion of the bead. Tubeless wheels need to have a safety bead to keep a deflated tubeless tire on the rim. Dirt bike wheels, designed to run with tubes, generally do not have safety beads which makes tire changing easier. Larger adventure bikes have safety beads on the rear wheels (at least) for safety reasons. Tubeless wheels often require special tools to break the bead of the tire when changing tires.

Might be good for someone who knows the tire business to respond. I know very little.
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