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Old 07-01-2012, 05:06 AM   #136
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no way those cyclist can do what they do clean.

Just like hockey players can't do what they do. A lot of the doping is for recovery, not just performance.
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:08 AM   #137
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Turned on the TDF this morning and saw this.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...5#.T_WCm_UrqSo

And the fact that 6 of his former team mates agreed to testify against him in return for a 6 month suspended sentence.
So they admit that they doped, and they can hang Lance with no cost to themselves.
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:28 PM   #138
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How can this thread have more interest than the tour thread?????
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:32 PM   #139
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How can this thread have more interest than the tour thread?????
An abundance of assholes, envy and cowardice!
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:09 PM   #140
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The thug is one step closer to going down.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...al-case_228698
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:13 PM   #141
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:44 PM   #142
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Still a witch hunt.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:16 PM   #143
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Still a witch hunt.


I have serious doubts about Lance's innocence.

But I have more serious doubts about the process.

Unless they can produce a vial of blood that has an adequate chain of custody, and tests positive I think it is messed up.

USADA "granting immunity" for testimony? They are not a court of law. They are a group with rules. They need to follow their own rules. Lance seems to have his own Javert. That is BS.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:08 PM   #144
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Still a witch hunt.
I have consumed a ton of press regarding whether Lance doped or not.

I have never, ever heard anyone raise this kind of accusation.

And then, there's this which is interesting if you like to follow the money.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:47 PM   #145
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I have serious doubts about Lance's innocence.

But I have more serious doubts about the process.

Unless they can produce a vial of blood that has an adequate chain of custody, and tests positive I think it is messed up.

USADA "granting immunity" for testimony? They are not a court of law. They are a group with rules. They need to follow their own rules. Lance seems to have his own Javert. That is BS.
The guys who allegedly testified that Armstrong doped have nothing to gain and will loose a lot when everything comes out. It does seem a little sketchy how it's all going down but in the end the truth will emerge and it will show that LA bought, bullied and cheated his way to fame. The thing is everyone one of the guys on the TdF podium with him every year was doped up too so he was no worse than his competitors. Just smarter and richer.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:21 PM   #146
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The guys who allegedly testified that Armstrong doped have nothing to gain and will loose a lot when everything comes out. It does seem a little sketchy how it's all going down but in the end the truth will emerge and it will show that LA bought, bullied and cheated his way to fame. The thing is everyone one of the guys on the TdF podium with him every year was doped up too so he was no worse than his competitors. Just smarter and richer.
Against frenchy who loved him all those years?

I saw my neighbor have a beer on his back porch, against ordinance, and I think it might have given him super human powers. :N

C'mon........give it a rest already. LeMond is just a crybaby trying to resurrect his importance by tarnishing anothers. He has been on this mission for years now. If Lance doped, he did too.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:12 AM   #147
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The guys who allegedly testified that Armstrong doped have nothing to gain and will loose a lot when everything comes out. It does seem a little sketchy how it's all going down but in the end the truth will emerge and it will show that LA bought, bullied and cheated his way to fame. The thing is everyone one of the guys on the TdF podium with him every year was doped up too so he was no worse than his competitors. Just smarter and richer.
You must have missed post 89.

Looks like every single runner up is tainted. This isn't something this very casual fan before spending some time with Wiki. How deep into the pack do you need to go before you get away from the odor of taint? ---Jurgen
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:57 AM   #148
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You must have missed post 89.
I don't understand your point. It seems like I was saying the same thing - they were all on drugs.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:00 PM   #149
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I don't understand your point. It seems like I was saying the same thing - they were all on drugs.
Exactly.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:01 PM   #150
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Against frenchy who loved him all those years?

I saw my neighbor have a beer on his back porch, against ordinance, and I think it might have given him super human powers. :N

C'mon........give it a rest already. LeMond is just a crybaby trying to resurrect his importance by tarnishing anothers. He has been on this mission for years now. If Lance doped, he did too.

Why are you bringin lemond into this? The riders who allegedly testified against LA were all ex-teamates and in the case of Hincapie one of Lance's closest friends in the peleton and who made a lot of money from his relationship with Lance. Hincapie also has a reputation of being a class act, etc.... Now it's likely going to come out that he was doping as well. His mountain top finish in the TdF was a little bizarre considering the guy is no climber.

I don't think there is a single person who has ridden a bike in anger in the last few years that thinks LA didn't dope.
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