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Old 08-24-2012, 04:48 AM   #211
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Fuck em. He's still Lance and still won.
I'm sure the East German Olympic teams endorse your philosophy
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:57 AM   #212
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If Lance was any other nationality you fuckers would be crucifying him ......
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:02 AM   #213
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I'm not sure what I feel about this. All he wanted to do is have some fun. I gotta feeling he's not the only one.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:16 AM   #214
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:22 AM   #215
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:22 AM   #216
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This is bullshit!

So, they take his titles. Then what? Does the second place guy become the first place guy?
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:26 AM   #217
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I have always felt that there should be an open class for all athletes. Do all the juice you want. Max yourself out and dope up till it runs out the gills. Along with drug free events, there should be a "do all the drugs you want" events.
That would be "pro" wrestling.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:27 AM   #218
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But what if the second place guy was doping, or maybe Tygart just hates him too.
Then we go the the third place guy, unless he was doping, or Tygart hates him too......


Our tax dollars hard at work here.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:28 AM   #219
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I have always felt that there should be an open class for all athletes. Do all the juice you want. Max yourself out and dope up till it runs out the gills. Along with drug free events, there should be a "do all the drugs you want" events.
I can't find it but there was a SNL skit back in the '80's, with the all drug Olympics, Phil Hartman was on many drugs (including some sort of fish tranquilizer), and pulled his arms off trying to dead lift...
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:33 AM   #220
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I really don't know how anyone who was labled as someone who could not win the tour. Come back from a gunshot or cancer and win several times and do it all without help. With that being said I really don't know or care if Lance or Greg dopped.

The real prize in all of this is the chance in my life time to see a clean tour. What could be more enguaging then having people rise to the occasion and then in a depleated state fall back as new assult is planned by someone else. After all the tour is a race. A human powered race.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:39 AM   #221
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Or a recognition that the USADA is as fair and impartial as Fox news.
+1

This will never end for him, there is no double jeopardy or anything like that. Can't prove a negative and all that.

When there's no actual evidence required, they just need to pay off another accuser to start the whole process over again.

I don't blame him for moving on
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:41 AM   #222
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What a bunch of crap. It was some of the most exciting bicycle racing that I've ever seen, and something that brought countless people into the sport. Thanks, Lance!
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:43 AM   #223
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From Lance's facebook this morning (in his own words):

Lance Armstong's Statement of August 23, 2012

AUSTIN, Texas - August 23rd, 2012 - There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart's unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense.

I had hoped that a federal court would stop USADA’s charade. Although the court was sympathetic to my concerns and recognized the many improprieties and deficiencies in USADA’s motives, its conduct, and its process, the court ultimately decided that it could not intervene.

If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?

From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA’s improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA’s own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today.

The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It’s an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It’s just not right.

USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles. I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours. We all raced together. For three weeks over the same roads, the same mountains, and against all the weather and elements that we had to confront. There were no shortcuts, there was no special treatment. The same courses, the same rules. The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that. Especially not Travis Tygart.

Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly $500 million. We have a lot of work to do and I'm looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission. Going forward, I am going to devote myself to raising my five beautiful (and energetic) kids, fighting cancer, and attempting to be the fittest 40-year old on the planet.
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Old 08-24-2012, 05:47 AM   #224
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Or a recognition that the USADA is as fair and impartial as Fox news.


500ish clean tests during his competing years and some jackoff from a sanctioning body that does not run the TDF decides he can strip the titles.

Fuck Tygart and the



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Old 08-24-2012, 05:51 AM   #225
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Obviously the asshats fucking with Lance haven't gotten on the touchy-feely everybody's a winner program that seems to be all the rage in America these days.
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