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Old 02-04-2014, 10:19 AM   #16
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Put the 1190R KTM in a room with the Zero FX.....light the candles.....

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-fx/

http://www.ktm.com/us/travel/1190-ad...l#.UvEvSj1dWSo
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:29 PM   #17
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Everybody wants something different. That's one reason why they won't build it. No one definition of "adventure bike."
Manufacture's are using it as a catch phrase to sell bikes. Ever since Charley & Ewan trashed their big pigs, every one wants an "adventure" bike.
I think they'll continue to milk the m/c consumer for all they can, making only enough improvements to sell next years model.



I think you are partially correct, and not!!! I never have done dirt bikes, or really even Dual-sports over the years. My riding consisted of Sport-touring Honda ST's for cross country travel while I was living in Ohio. Now being here in Washington for 8 years, I have switched my desires to go across the country on slab to venturing off the beaten path. I want comfort for the long haul riding my bike to my destination. For a long time, I have topped the scale over 300#'s, now a bit lower, but never wanted to shoe-horn an XR650 or KLR or smaller up my ass to play off the pavement. A big Adventure Big works for some. I also don't have the space or resources for multiple bikes. I have to make due running on forest service roads and learning skills to maximise the use of my big adventure bike. I don't think I am the only one who sort-of has the one bike limitations going on, yet want to learn about more off roading.

I see a time in the near future as my daughter now 3 i will start to get her into riding. I think it will be atv's to start, but who knows, maybe dirt bikes so my wife can also learn and make it into family outings.

I too don't know why Honda is doing what they are, I mean are NOT doing for this industry.

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Old 02-04-2014, 02:40 PM   #18
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Laugh

dear Honda, please make the KTM RFS 525 and the KTM 300 XC-W

thank you
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:22 PM   #19
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Jeff in Issaquah, huh?

Howz about you head over to the Issaquah Brewery & pick up some menage a frog Belgium beer for the next time you're in Portland area. We'll have a beer & talk it over.
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:46 PM   #20
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That sounds even better.
V, or Parallel?
Nothin like a vtwin. Funny how the KTM brand keeps coming up. why do you suppose that is?
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:44 PM   #21
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Nothin like a vtwin. Funny how the KTM brand keeps coming up. why do you suppose that is?
Mmmm? Because it's race oriented but needs more reliability?
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:01 PM   #22
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Nothin like a vtwin. Funny how the KTM brand keeps coming up. why do you suppose that is?
Because they are designed and built by MOTORCYCLIST's for MOTORCYCLIST's.

The Japanese are on finical lockdown. Only the most conservative project will get through. I wonder what the latest graphics will be on the new XR650L??
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:08 PM   #23
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They could put knobbies on a Goldwing and the Honda fanbois would line up to buy it.

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Old 02-04-2014, 10:44 PM   #24
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I asked for a DR650 with optional kick start, a 6 speed transmission, a comfortable seat and 45+ hp.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:53 AM   #25
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I sure wish they would bring the Crosstourer to the States and give us that option. I'd love to try a V-4 powered "ADV" bike.

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Mmmm? Because it's race oriented but needs more reliability?


Well said.
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Old 02-05-2014, 12:20 PM   #27
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Well said.
I don't know what your personal experience is.
I beat the hell out of all my bikes Anyone who has riden with me knows that. I have had nothing but outstanding reliability from all my KTMs. In fact picking up another here in about an hr. 300 braaaaaappp

I was a die hard Honda rider until 2000 when KTM showed up with the RFS
Im not a brand loyalist by any means, just ride the best for what I like to do.
I also have some blue in the garage. all reliable and well used.
IMO all the brands are about equal in reliability, even if they where not, I would rather push a great bike than ride a half assed attempt at what some manufactures call a ADV bike.
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:52 PM   #28
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....I would rather push a great bike than ride a half assed attempt at what some manufactures call a ADV bike.


Well said ^^^^

I have had quite good reliability from my KTM 990 for 6+ years and 55k miles.
I will keep it forever, then rebuild it when it dies.
It does NOT suck !!
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:16 PM   #29
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I like that most of the slots I had to check "other" unless it was KTM. No room for Beta, Gasgas, or Husqvarna. Honda doesn't build a single bike I want to ride. I'll admit that the XR650R supermoto with 70+hp was a pretty fun bike to ride though. And... I'll pass on anything fuel injected. I need to be able to fix it with a screwdriver and a hammer.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:01 PM   #30
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And... I'll pass on anything fuel injected. I need to be able to fix it with a screwdriver and a hammer.
I'll pass on anything carbureted,
.....I need to be able to actually start it every morning.


You old skool guys crack me up
You forget that most (always exceptions) FI actually NEVER needs dinking with.
I'll never forget that OBDR trip with the XR that took that stinky box apart how many times??????
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