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Old 02-07-2014, 11:32 AM   #31
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Everybody wants something different. That's one reason why they won't build it. No one definition of "adventure bike."
Manufacture's are using it as a catch phrase to sell bikes. Ever since Charley & Ewan trashed their big pigs, every one wants an "adventure" bike.

When I worked at St. Johns, before George sold it to that Mormon guy, I was lucky enough to have a conversation with a guy from Honda that was high up in the motorcycle division.
How long did you work there?

I lived fairly close, and made it in there from time to time.
Bought my Nighthawk there.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:03 PM   #32
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I bit

I indicated I wanted an electric start 400-650 cc bike, that weighed less than 275 lbs, has the capability to go 250 miles on a single tank, with a wide ratio 6 speed transmission, that would do 70 mph comfortably, with superior off road suspension, had a decent kick stand, rear rack and sturdy subframe.

I indicated my age and added I was female.

What perplexed me was that they had us indicate what brand our next bike would be, leading me to believe this is a bogus survey, fun to dream though!
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:14 PM   #33
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I indicated I wanted an electric start 400-650 cc bike, that weighed less than 275 lbs, has the capability to go 250 miles on a single tank, with a wide ratio 6 speed transmission, that would do 70 mph comfortably, with superior off road suspension, had a decent kick stand, rear rack and sturdy subframe.

I indicated my age and added I was female.

What perplexed me was that they had us indicate what brand our next bike would be, leading me to believe this is a bogus survey, fun to dream though!
Thats funny, I bit also. Told them I wanted a 400-650cc bike, electric start with kick backup, 400 mile fuel range, wide ratio 6 spd, under 300lbs, adjustable suspension with hydraulic adjustable rear preload, stout subframe with a rack option, High output electrical system, 18" rear wheel, 21"front wheel......etc...... Doesn't hurt to dream I guess.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:32 PM   #34
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Ooh!

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Thats funny, I bit also. Told them I wanted a 400-650cc bike, electric start with kick backup, 400 mile fuel range, wide ratio 6 spd, under 300lbs, adjustable suspension with hydraulic adjustable rear preload, stout subframe with a rack option, High output electrical system, 18" rear wheel, 21"front wheel......etc...... Doesn't hurt to dream I guess.
Love, the high output electrical system, kick start back up is great idea I had that on Elcie, never considered I would have to specify 18" rear wheel, 21"front wheel, 400 mile fuel range-you did dream big, those who've owned an RFS - KTM understand my kickstand request!
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Old 02-08-2014, 03:11 PM   #35
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How long did you work there?

I lived fairly close, and made it in there from time to time.
Bought my Nighthawk there.
I was there from 1992? 'till 2006. Getting old, didn't write it down.
My ex & I bought two brand new 1973 XL-250s from George (the owner). Rode 'em both to San Berdo & back.
Who was your salesman?
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:11 PM   #36
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Thats funny, I bit also. Told them I wanted a 400-650cc bike, electric start with kick backup, 400 mile fuel range, wide ratio 6 spd, under 300lbs, adjustable suspension with hydraulic adjustable rear preload, stout subframe with a rack option, High output electrical system, 18" rear wheel, 21"front wheel......etc...... Doesn't hurt to dream I guess.
Ditto, but I let them slide to 350 lbs. It's Honda after all.
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:23 PM   #37
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I asked for a DR650 with optional kick start, a 6 speed transmission, a comfortable seat and 45+ hp.
How's that DR of yours doing these days, Duke?
Got that fresh displacement boost running right?
......Or are you just gonna wait for this new dream Honda?
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:58 PM   #38
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Dream Honda

Everyones coments are well said, I am blessed with having three bikes, couldnt find just one that would do all I wanted, FJR for touring, CBR for canyon carving / track, and XR650L for dual sport. While the XR is a great dual sport, it lacks the long distance comfort (for an old 60year old fart anyway) , I ride with a freind that has a new KTM 1190R, fantastic bike, a little big and heavy for single track, but in all other aspects probably the best ADV bike available at this time. We all know Honda could come up with a comperable bike (for US market, read trans lap). Hell, the 1190R was out in Europe for over a year before you could get one here, if Honda does make a real ADV bike it will be sold in Europe first,(and maybe only) the Europeans are much more ADV oriented. The rest of the world thinks US riders ride mostly Harlys, I'm sorry to say. So, I'm not holding my breath for a real ADV bike from Honda any time soon.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:16 AM   #39
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I asked for a CRF450X-SM (Supermoto) and a CRF450XL (street legal). The CRF450X already meets EPA emissions standards, so Honda doesn't offer it only because they don't want to offer it. They could put the same lighting kit from the 650L or the 250L to make it street legal.
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:01 PM   #40
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How's that DR of yours doing these days, Duke?
Got that fresh displacement boost running right?
......Or are you just gonna wait for this new dream Honda?
She runs, I just need to do some carb tuning, which I'm going to get to when the weather gets a little nicer.

It's a LOT louder, it sounds so angry!

of course I then made the mistake of adding up all the stuff i've done to it and then thought about how i should have just sold it and bought a 690 enduro.
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Old 02-26-2014, 08:16 PM   #41
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Honda is dead in the water. The boat has already left.
...I used to love Honda.

KTM Aprilia & Triumph even Beemer have kicked their ass.

A CB500X in Dakar like set-up (21/18) and light would be pretty nice though.
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Old 02-28-2014, 11:08 AM   #42
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I basically asked for a ktm 350 exc-f in red. I love my XR's but its time to join the party!
250-260 lbs
40 hp
real suspension that wasn't set up for a 120 lb person
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Kick and E start
3+ gallon tank
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