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Old 04-09-2014, 12:05 PM   #226
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Plenty of videos posted already... I hear there was an R100GS racing? Tried to catch it but didn't see it...
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Old 04-09-2014, 01:53 PM   #227
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Yeah, what drama happened at the end? We didn't see the finish/awards.

Not that I like drama, but I'm curious now.
There was a XR650R that signed up for the ADV class and finished 15mins faster than anyone else. His argument was that his bike was bored out thereby meeting the 652cc rule. Darryl and the StumpJumpers said he didn't qualify for the class. A heated discussion followed and he was DQ'd from the ADV class which is why the 652cc rule is being discussed again.

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I hear there was an R100GS racing? Tried to catch it but didn't see it...
Yes, my friend Pat Horan was racing his '93 R100 P/D. He's an amazing rider that raced all over Canada, the US and Europe. Has been on the International Six Days Enduro team and was on Team Canada for the BMW GS Trophy in South Africa. He throws that PD around like a trials bike
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:01 PM   #228
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The real defining ADV class "feature" is 400+ pounds. If it has a 450cc or a 1190 cc, doesn't matter!
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:27 PM   #229
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The real defining ADV class "feature" is 400+ pounds. If it has a 450cc or a 1190 cc, doesn't matter!
I respectfully disagree. a 450 cc bike might be a dual sport, IMO it sure isn't an adv bike, not for these purposes anyways.

Not that I care about racing against smaller bikes, In fact I like it,
but in the spirit of competition, one needs to set rules that offer close to an even playing field, other wise why not race open class and forget about the ADV class.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:57 PM   #230
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There was a XR650R that signed up for the ADV class and finished 15mins faster than anyone else. His argument was that his bike was bored out thereby meeting the 652cc rule. Darryl and the StumpJumpers said he didn't qualify for the class. A heated discussion followed and he was DQ'd from the ADV class which is why the 652cc rule is being discussed again.
Having been the owner of an XR650R that I've used for dualsport purposes I think the XR would be unfair for this class....unless possibly they raced up with loaded panniers, top case, windshield, and functioning turn signals. ;)
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:12 PM   #231
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Having been the owner of an XR650R that I've used for dualsport purposes I think the XR would be unfair for this class....unless possibly they raced up with loaded panniers, top case, windshield, and functioning turn signals. ;)
I think that's a much better definition of adventure bike. Ride whatever bike you want, but you have to carry a bundle of firewood, case of beer, tent, jetboil, etc.....
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:16 PM   #232
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Yes, my friend Pat Horan was racing his '93 R100 P/D. He's an amazing rider that raced all over Canada, the US and Europe. Has been on the International Six Days Enduro team and was on Team Canada for the BMW GS Trophy in South Africa. He throws that PD around like a trials bike
I've got some go pro video of him riding in the race that I'll post up later.
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:16 PM   #233
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As promised here is my highlight/fail video. Link here in case embed doesn't work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC8G...8&noredirect=1

Watching back on the video it's pretty obvious to me that I got both intimidated at worn out from crashing and dropping the bike so many times and it was just a slow and hot inevitable end. I have lots to practice and learn before next year!
At least you gave it a good try - I rode the same bike over about 15miles of the course in the Poker Run and it was brutal :-) Maybe I'll give the Adventure class race a go next year, but I figured I didn't have any business racing last weekend seeing as how it was my first time in the dirt in 30 years
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:35 PM   #234
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I'll probably regret posting this, but would a two-or-more-cylinders requirement help this problem?
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:39 PM   #235
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I'll probably regret posting this, but would a two-or-more-cylinders requirement help this problem?
aprillia rx 450/ rx550 both sweet twins

I would like to see the KLR and XRL also raceable in the ADV class.
factory plated 651CC and above should do it??
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:11 PM   #236
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aprillia rx 450/ rx550 both sweet twins

I would like to see the KLR and XRL also raceable in the ADV class.
factory plated 651CC and above should do it??


On the subject of minimum displacement rules, check out the Maico 760: http://articles.superhunky.com/4/52


How about the DR650 and Wee-strom, I believe both are smaller than 650 but belong in this class. Would dropping the displacement limit down for them let in 'undesirables'?

Is the KTM 640 Adventure considered worthy? It is, after all, the first and best bike to ever call itself an adventure bike.
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Old 04-09-2014, 06:22 PM   #237
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I am glad the turn-out was good for this race despite several DNF's..

The end of the race was difficult for me...if you wonder why the trophy presentation took a while to start, now you know.

I will be reworking the rules for the ADV class with advice from a few select people I know and making it CLEARLY stated on the flyer.

Now packing up and heading BACK to Odessa to pull ribbon. Brought a trailer home today and got three more to bring to the wetside.
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Old 04-09-2014, 06:51 PM   #238
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aprillia rx 450/ rx550 both sweet twins

I would like to see the KLR and XRL also raceable in the ADV class.
factory plated 651CC and above should do it??
Yeah, I didn't mean to do away with the 65Xcc rule, but I'm not suprised that adding a twin-or-more restriction brings its own problems.

Oh well, I tired.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:18 PM   #239
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I'll probably regret posting this, but would a two-or-more-cylinders requirement help this problem?
Except the F650GS is a single that is an obvious adventure class bike and is....wait for it.....exactly 652cc. ;)

I'm glad mx813 has ideas for refinement. I sure want to come back next year and try again!
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:50 PM   #240
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Not trying to start a war here but since I live in a cave and don't get out much --- why is an XR 650 Honda illegal in this class but a KTM 695 is Legal?

The 650 has 7 year old everything, a 5 speed transmission, etc. The KTM has a 6 speed, electric start, modern suspension and can't weigh a lot more.

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