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Old 02-14-2014, 06:19 AM   #31
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I dunno. There's a 13' I might can get a fantastic deal on, equipped just the way I want it.

A big thing I'm considering is this...

From what I can see and from what I've heard from many others, a URAL is DEFINITELY an adventure bike. I'm not talking about taking it on the most difficult trails imaginable but just across rough roads, dirt roads, fire trails and mainly out into the middle of no where camping and through the backroads across this country and others.

I just keep hearing from some people that these things are so unreliable that taking them more than a half hour away from home is risky.

It seems like an ideal adventure platform, I'm just wondering about how unreliable they are. I love traveling around places via backroads and would love adventuring like that, but can it make it? I don't care if it can't cruise over 65mph, I don't want to. I like to enjoy the ride.

What do you folks say to this...?

I moved from Phoenix to PA 1 1/2 years ago. I bought a Yamal a year ago and now have 12k on it. I bought it because I got used to riding year round in AZ and couldn't in PA due to the icy roads.

The motorcycle required two warranty repairs and one recall. All were handled quickly and I was back on the road in a week. Urals do require a lot of maintenance and are not gas and go, they are under powered and ride like a farm tractor, there is NOTHING refined about these motorcycles. Headwind is your enemy, more so than hills which is almost a constant in your part of the country. That said, I love my Ural. A 2wd will easily go places that my big adventure bike will not (given it's not single track). I have had it axle deep in mud, climbed loose rocky grades and snow covered trails deep in the woods. If your going to sit back and enjoy the trail a 2wd Ural rocks. The tub is very comfortable for a passenger and you can carry a weeks worth of camping supplies if needed. With proper maintenance and frequent inspections I have no issues taking it very far away from home to remote places.

I have not ridden the 2014 Urals but the feed back from people that have suggest that maybe it is worth the extra cash to get one. I like the idea of not having to rejet (a must) or adjust my brake shoes every time I swap a tire since my drums all seam to be different sizes.
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Old 02-14-2014, 06:41 AM   #32
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I dunno. There's a 13' I might can get a fantastic deal on, equipped just the way I want it.

A big thing I'm considering is this...

From what I can see and from what I've heard from many others, a URAL is DEFINITELY an adventure bike. I'm not talking about taking it on the most difficult trails imaginable but just across rough roads, dirt roads, fire trails and mainly out into the middle of no where camping and through the backroads across this country and others.

I just keep hearing from some people that these things are so unreliable that taking them more than a half hour away from home is risky.

It seems like an ideal adventure platform, I'm just wondering about how unreliable they are. I love traveling around places via backroads and would love adventuring like that, but can it make it? I don't care if it can't cruise over 65mph, I don't want to. I like to enjoy the ride.

What do you folks say to this...?
they are plenty reliable for travel, but it helps to be mechanically inclined, and very familiar with the rig. I didnt hesitate to take mine on multi day, multi state trips. I lucked out and none of the warranty issues ever left me stranded. Limping home yes, but never had to call for a rescue.

They are the perfect back road travel rig for 2 up camping and exploring.

On long trips you may have to plan a tire rotation or replacement depending on how you are loaded, how you ride and how abrasive the surfaces are. Mainly the pusher tire. With a big load and abrasive roads you can kill a pusher tire VERY fast. One weekend I killed a pusher in 1600k. Lots of gravel FS roads, and WV pavement is fairly rough. Just something else to take into consideration. Having a full spare makes really long trips easier. You can rotate them when you change the oil.

One more thing to note on long trips. Fuel economy. Again depending on terrian, load and riding style your MPG can drop into the mid 20's on a carbed bike. 4.8 gal tank means numerous gas stops and carrying several gallons of spare fuel. We found it easier to deal with the extra weight of spare fuel and topping off road side instead of stopping a gas stations constantly. The UDF is fun for a while but when traveling it can get tedious if you are tied up for 20-30min at EVERY fuel stop, especially when those stops are every 120 miles. Also if you plan to ride in remote areas you HAVE to carry spare fuel. Reserve is small, my bud and I both ran ours empty to see what the range is on reserve, we averaged about 15 miles before she sputters to a stop.

great rigs for rides like this

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Old 02-14-2014, 06:43 AM   #33
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I dunno. There's a 13' I might can get a fantastic deal on, equipped just the way I want it.

A big thing I'm considering is this...

From what I can see and from what I've heard from many others, a URAL is DEFINITELY an adventure bike. I'm not talking about taking it on the most difficult trails imaginable but just across rough roads, dirt roads, fire trails and mainly out into the middle of no where camping and through the backroads across this country and others.

I just keep hearing from some people that these things are so unreliable that taking them more than a half hour away from home is risky.

It seems like an ideal adventure platform, I'm just wondering about how unreliable they are. I love traveling around places via backroads and would love adventuring like that, but can it make it? I don't care if it can't cruise over 65mph, I don't want to. I like to enjoy the ride.

What do you folks say to this...?

I moved from Phoenix to PA 1 1/2 years ago. I bought a Yamal a year ago and now have 12k on it. I bought it because I got used to riding year round in AZ and couldn't in PA due to the icy roads.

The motorcycle required two warranty repairs and one recall. All were handled quickly and I was back on the road in a week. Urals do require a lot of maintenance and are not gas and go, they are under powered and ride like a farm tractor, there is NOTHING refined about these motorcycles. Headwind is your enemy, more so than hills which is almost a constant in your part of the country. That said, I love my Ural. A 2wd will easily go places that my big adventure bike will not (given it's not single track). I have had it axle deep in mud, climbed loose rocky grades and snow covered trails deep in the woods. If your going to sit back and enjoy the trail a 2wd Ural rocks. The tub is very comfortable for a passenger and you can carry a weeks worth of camping supplies if needed. With proper maintenance and frequent inspections I have no issues taking it very far away from home to remote places.

I have not ridden the 2014 Urals but the feed back from people that have suggest that maybe it is worth the extra cash to get one. I like the idea of not having to rejet (a must) or adjust my brake shoes every time I swap a tire since my drums all seam to be different sizes.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:08 AM   #34
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Some great responses here in this thread, I read them all and take in all your information. Thank you all for the help.

Going to go ride a Ural demo model today, I'll post the results later tonight when I get home.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:45 AM   #35
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great rigs for rides like this
Hmmmmm...



not seeing a big advantage
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:56 AM   #36
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not seeing a big advantage

hahahaha I didnt say its the only option

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Old 02-14-2014, 10:05 AM   #37
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Go for it

Hope your demo ride goes well today! I'll be surprised if you're not hooked after taking it for a spin.

We picked up our '10 Ural Red October (1 wheel drive, special edition model based on the Ural Tourist with the Retro Sidecar) about a year ago and can't stop playing with it! If you're wanting a bike to tool around on and enjoy scenery with you'll be happy with a Ural. You won't know how "social" the rig is until you experience it yourself and we agree with you on the classic looks being a huge appeal. It's a magnet for stares, waves and conversation. We've been pretty tough on the bike, using it as a daily commuter, family outings to the ice cream shop (loaded with 4 people), picked up Pumpkins at the orchard, explore gravel backroads, blasting the snow covered roads and recently spent 3 days throwing it around the twisties in the Deals Gap, NC/TN area. Although wear and tear is expected, maintenance and upkeep is just as important with any other bike. So far though, we haven't had a single issue. I agree with the others that spending time on SovietSteeds is a good way to get a bead on Ural ownership...and if/when there are any issues or questions, someone there is ready to help. If we were to add a '14 Ural to the garage it'd be the Asphalt Gray Gear Up!











Photos and article about various Ural folk tooling around Indy.

Anxious to see what you think of the test ride!
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:20 AM   #38
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:33 AM   #39
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Ural demo rides

We are taking to the road with the new 2014 Urals!
We’ll be stopping by the dealers across the country and putting together demo ride events. Would love to see you there!
We will be updating this schedule in the next couple of days, please check in to find an event near you.
Here’s where we will be:
February 2014
Feb 8 – Raceway Ural, Salem OR
Feb 15 – San Diego BMW, San Diego, CA
Feb 22 – Sacramento Ural, Roseville, CA RSVP here
Feb 23 – Triquest Motorcycles&Sidecars, Santa Clara CA
Feb 28 – Scooter & Autosource, Prescott, AZ
Mar 1 – Go AZ Motorcycles, Scottsdale, AZ
Mar 7 – Storm’s Seller Motorcycle, Grand Prairie, TX
Mar 8 – North Dallas BMW/Ural, Plano, TX
Mar 9 – Gulf Coast BMW/Ural, Houston, TX RSVP here
Mar 16 – Holopaw Ural, St. Cloud, FL
Mar 22 – Motorcycles of Charlotte, Charlotte, NC
Mar 29 – Bumpus HD, Murfreesboro, TN
Apr 3 – Reno Powersports, Kansas City, MO
Apr 5 – Unique Rides, Fort Collins, CO
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:06 AM   #40
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Hmmmmm...
not seeing a big advantage
I'd say the woman in the sidecar is a big advantage.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:14 AM   #41
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"Mar 16 – Holopaw Ural, St. Cloud, FL"

Gene at Holopaw Ural emailed me that you would also be at his shop on Monday March 17th, right?
I hope to be there on Monday since like a lot of the Florida Uralists I will be on this ride on my Yamal.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:13 PM   #42
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I'd say the woman in the sidecar is a big advantage.
Mine rides her own bike. Did the COBDR last summer







THAT is an advantage
The sidecar that's planned for my GS will carry her dog, and a much bigger kitchen.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:31 PM   #43
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Thanks again for the replies everyone and for the cool photos too. I've read through them all.

Well, I went and demo'd it. Long story I'm going to try to keep short...

Went to test ride the demo model... It rode extremely strange out on the street. I'm no sidecar expert but knew something was wrong. Was having to fight it with all my muscle to keep it going in a strait line. Finally brought it back to the dealership and had to check the tires myself. They were extremely low...

They brought out another Ural, the one I was wanting and said that since it wasn't a demo and didn't have plate I could only ride it in the parking lot, mind you it's a huge lot and I was able to get it up to 3rd gear with no problems and do plenty of maneuvering. Damn, what a difference some PSI in the wheels made...

I have never had so much fun in a vehicle before. I was laughing so much. Eventually Mrs. Zeid had to LITERALLY run me down and tell me enough was enough. I wasn't a kid in a candy store, I was a crack addict porn star in Bangkok. I still can't conceive how something that much fun is possible. I know it is the bike for me AND...

They have a special edition, one I fell in love with that only had a few made. I want THAT one and only THAT one, very badly.

Here's the problem... The Dealership.

I was told to come back and that the bike would be "prepped and ready in the morning." Some how, even though it sat out front and I was there right when I said I would be, many hours after opening, they hadn't bothered to check the tire pressure.

When we started working out prices, they lowballed me so far on my motorcycle (see signature) as a trade in that I was insulted. $10,000 for my bike, loaded down with every option, full panniers, all the farkles you could imagine, never been dropped or scratched and only 6k miles?

Then they started the whole bogus bullcrap of trying to rip me off... $2,500 in dealer fee's that "they just cannot move on or they don't make money" and more bullcrap lines like that. I hate dealerships that act like that, not to mention the salesmen we were "pitched off" to when ours was busy had no interest in us when he thought we were some one elses customer and walked right past us rudely without asking if we needed help.

Terrible, horrible dealer experience. If I was able to sell my bike I might could get the bike down to a fair price, but with them wanting me to eat a mountain of equity...? No thank you. I still owe a good bit on my bike, did the EasyPay thing through BMW when I got it and only got it less than a year ago.

Yep, the Ural would be the bike for me.

Mrs. Zeid rides with me all the time, she LOVED the Ural. On my great big tall top heavy adventure bike I always feel nervous with her onboard. By myself? It's more than fine, but she's always by my side- or rather, behind my back. I wish I would have thought the purchase through further when I bought it, but now I suppose I must live with it...

Oh well, I tried.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:59 PM   #44
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On the bright side, you got to ride one.

Patience. I would think you could move the BMW for a good price fairly quick. There will be plenty of opportunities to pick up a Ural.

Good luck!
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On the bright side, you got to ride one.

Patience. I would think you could move the BMW for a good price fairly quick. There will be plenty of opportunities to pick up a Ural.

Good luck!
You would think, but to break even the payoff is near 20 grand on it. With all the equip it's a pretty solid deal even at that, but me and selling vehicles = extremely agonizingly bad process full of bad people and much frustration and I've never tried to sell a motorcycle worth this much before. I forsee many hardships to get it sold.
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