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Old 02-12-2014, 06:46 AM   #16
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PayPal is good for buying a $20 t-shirt. And that's all.

Good luck- a serious buyer will have no problem doing a bank check or transfer.
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Old 02-12-2014, 07:38 AM   #17
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Thanks for all the advice. I'm definitely not going with Paypal - it turns out that their 'protection' doesn't cover vehicles. I sell a lot of stuff on eBay and via paypal, but there's just too much money involved in this one.

the direct bank-to-bank transfer seems like a good way to go, as does the bank check. The buyer seems reasonably up and up, and though he's not on ADV, he's on the gsresources and has a decent enough presence there. Though a big part of me is considering calling him back and saying I'm not too interested in selling unless it's local or there is some way to pay directly in cash, which is normally my stipulation selling things like a bike or a car.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:23 AM   #18
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Buy It Now and payment with bank transfer. That's a tough one to defraud.
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:44 PM   #19
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I wouldn't hit my dead dog in the azz w/PayPal or Ebay anymore... their whole thing has seemed to change in the last few months, Ebay is almost all commercial sellers now.... and there is absolutely NO recourse in any problems w/either of them, all they have is incredibly amorphous verbage saying nothing on their faq pages, and it's totally impossible to contact anyone for anything like an answer....and this is YOUR MONEY that they're messing with.... i'm really amazed that they're still in bizness and exist at all.... they're just making $$$ off dumb people who are buying overpriced overstock items from commercial vendors.... there really don't seem to be any good deals anymore....

as to the original question.... bank check when cleared, or postal money order.... postal money orders are the best, only cost a couple of bucks....
Dave,,,,,,,, where ever do you get this stuff from?

Ebay is not all commercial sellers,paypal does great on backing up sellers and buyers. Ive had 1 issue in 5 years and had Paypal on the phone in minutes and we chatted for 1/2 hour and sorted it out.

Ebay is what it is,but they have tons of rules and if it wasnt safe to deal on there there wouldnt be millions of people doing it everyday.
Its not all bad believe me.
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:45 PM   #20
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Buy It Now and payment with bank transfer. That's a tough one to defraud.
Id do that. Direct and secure. Buyer and seller have to trust each other a little at some point.
Or sell local.
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:47 PM   #21
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PayPal is good for buying a $20 t-shirt. And that's all.

Good luck- a serious buyer will have no problem doing a bank check or transfer.
6 years in full time business with paypal and ebay with out a single glitch,many thousands a day sometimes come in from all over the world.
No problems to report,sorry.
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:02 PM   #22
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Dave,,,,,,,, where ever do you get this stuff from?

Ebay is not all commercial sellers,paypal does great on backing up sellers and buyers. Ive had 1 issue in 5 years and had Paypal on the phone in minutes and we chatted for 1/2 hour and sorted it out.

Ebay is what it is,but they have tons of rules and if it wasnt safe to deal on there there wouldnt be millions of people doing it everyday.
Its not all bad believe me.
I used to play on ebay a lot... bought a whole tool crib fulla endmills and machine stuff, used to be one of the best deals on there....

I was just trying to sell an old Harley chopper I had... set up a free listing, renewed it a bunch of times.... all of a sudden, I had a $20 charge for the last renewal?... maybe it was in the fine print for the 7th renewal, or something, I dunno, but I never saw it, and wouldn't have renewed if I did.... I had canceled my PayPal account, but they still had the router number for my checking account, which is what was on the PayPal account.... the bastards took $20 straight outta my account!! I did not authorize the transaction at all!!... I disputed the charge, and I disputed it at the bank, and the bank refunded my $$$$, and I gotta new card number .... Ebay never communicated back, and now my account is suspended....I think they must have gotten a nastygram from the bank, and ebay/paypal refunded them, I've never really checked back. totally credit card fraud..... it was no way a legal transaction to take $$$ from my account w/out my knowledge.... it was just the principal of the thing, they went directly into my checking account and removed $$$ without my knowledge or consent.... $20 ain't much, but I will never use PayPal again....

Maybe you have good luck, but I think Ebay sux!! it's nothing but resellers now, and most of the stuff is real overpriced. I sold a bunch of bike parts there, but the fees are getting pretty high also.... I dunno how you actually got to talk to a person there, I've tried and I never get a response except for some amorphous bullshit that pretty much means nothing....

they can generally kiss my AZZ, and i'm taking my business elsewhere.... YMMV....

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Old 02-13-2014, 08:08 AM   #23
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Thanks for all the advice. I'm definitely not going with Paypal - it turns out that their 'protection' doesn't cover vehicles. I sell a lot of stuff on eBay and via paypal, but there's just too much money involved in this one.

the direct bank-to-bank transfer seems like a good way to go, as does the bank check. The buyer seems reasonably up and up, and though he's not on ADV, he's on the gsresources and has a decent enough presence there. Though a big part of me is considering calling him back and saying I'm not too interested in selling unless it's local or there is some way to pay directly in cash, which is normally my stipulation selling things like a bike or a car.
Sell the Bike! Its not brain salad surgery. ME I like CASH! But in the real world like many have said, Bank to Bank wire transfer! BUT! There is one more step in the process I did not read so far. I always delay shipment of any thing I have sold with wire transfers till I remove the monies wired to my specified wire account to another completely separate account. Just because its wired it aint over, they still have a string attached to it. Banks make mistakes (yes they are human) and can address that within a certain time frame. DON'T allow this to happen to you. It's simple. Walk into the bank, or do it on you puter from home. Just transfer it over to another account. Your golden!
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:23 AM   #24
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Sold a car a few years ago. Guy sent me a Paypal for about 1/3 the total. When the transport came to pick it up, he had the balance in a cashier's check. I gave him the car and pink. Off it went to Ohio. Everyone involved were protected.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:57 AM   #25
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Thanks for all the advice. I'm definitely not going with Paypal - it turns out that their 'protection' doesn't cover vehicles. I sell a lot of stuff on eBay and via paypal, but there's just too much money involved in this one.
yes, their protection does not protect THE BUYER for vehicles. the seller is protected for paypal sales of vehicles on ebay. i've had a deal go bad via ebay/paypal for a vehicle. i had proof of shipment, he disputed the paypal payment, i sent paypal the proof of shipment and the line in their agreement that talks about the no protection for vehicles, and the money was back in my account in 24 hours. i don't know why anyone would email paypal, you can call them and get an answer in 5 minutes.
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Old 02-22-2014, 06:46 PM   #26
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I appreciate all the advice. I did end up selling the bike locally, as the whole situation was making me a bit uncomfortable. Normally I would have gone though with it, but was getting a really weird feeling about the prospective buyer after talking to him a few times.
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Old 02-22-2014, 06:48 PM   #27
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Those instincts are usually accurate. Saved me from a few things that turned out to be frauds. If it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't.
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Old 02-24-2014, 01:43 AM   #28
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Better to be safe and out a few buck then out of a GS.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:08 AM   #29
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:37 AM   #30
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Had an acquaintance sell his Harley for cash. Guy paid in $100 bills. Monday rolls around and he goes to the bank. Money is no good and he went through hell with the Gubmint (black suits, handcuffs, etc). Never saw the bike again and never saw a dime.

Postal MO is guaranteed, period... too many fake Cashier's checks and the PayPal option has already been discuss(ed).

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