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Old 02-18-2014, 09:06 AM   #1
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Value of Short Test Ride

I think a sidecar may be in my future but I am still learning a lot by reading and keeping my options open. A Ural is a possibility but so are the bikes I already own. I have been planning to go to a Ural Demo ride this weekend but now that the date is near I am wavering. Its a 350 mile round trip and will take my whole day to go participate in the demo.

They say you can putt around in the parking lot and "experienced" sidecar pilots can go 4 miles as a passenger and 4 miles as driver on some easy driving road. My previous "experience" with a side car rig was very limited and quite a long time ago. Not sure why some stranger would want to climb in the chair with me driving and vice-versa but that is how they do it.

My question is, even if they determine I am qualified to do the 4 mile test ride is that enough to really make any kind of evaluation? Do you think the basic experience would transfer well to other type of outfits or are they all as different as motorcycles are different?

If the dealer was any direction other than south it would make for an interesting ride/drive but 350 miles of freeway/highway driving and my entire day off for a few minute test drive is starting to sound foolish. On the other hand, with virtually no experience with sidecars, maybe a short test ride/drive would make me an instant convert.

Your input is appreciated!

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Old 02-18-2014, 09:43 AM   #2
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the more you can do and see the better off you will be when it comes time to make a decision. And if you do end up with a Ural, it is really a good idea to get to know and establish a relationship with a dealer. Even the parking lot putt can yield some valuable insights. You can observe how well the machines operate, get a feel for some of the low speed quirks, and observe how the dealer and his crew operate. You get to spend a longday or a weekend looking at and playing with motorcycles- I don't see the down side.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:25 AM   #3
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Having the opportunity to test ride a rig before purchase comes few and far between. If your planning on buying a new Ural the trip is worth it. Also, check out Sovietsteeds.com ask questions and use the search feature. Lots of Ural knowledge there.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:00 AM   #4
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I would do it if I were you. I had zero experience with sidecars. I bought my first one after given a two mile ride in the sidecar. I told the seller we had a deal so he brought me to a parking lot to try it myself. We probably put three miles on it between us. OTOH, my older brother who is also a long time rider rode my rig for a half mile, got off, and said "Absolutely NOT for me."
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:55 AM   #5
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IMHO I think it takes a while to know if you really like sidecars so I don't put much value in a short test ride.
Again IMHO you have to own one for a several months to know if you are going to be a long term owner.
Most people say "What have I done" when they first drive their new purchase.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:59 AM   #6
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The day I bought my previous Ural was my first time riding a sidecar bike. A friend dropped me off, I hopped on and rode 130 miles home. The first half hour was scary but them I felt okay.
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:04 PM   #7
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Take the trip. It will be worth the time. And, if you deem sidecars are not for you, you will have a day on the bike! Ride safe.
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:16 PM   #8
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The good thing of the 4 miles ride: it does not have the time to steer you away from buying! You go on the sidecar, run in a parking lot and around the block.... easy does it....part with your money... and start discovering how tuff reading a sidecar is!!! When I went trying mine (I was on my Can Am), I even thought it was easier to ride than my other 3 wheelers....Bing, bang, boum: a credit sign and I am the proud owner of a Gear Up.... that was in 2011 and I DO NOT REGRET IT for a minute! But, gosh, the 1st 1000kms were hard on my arms and back!!
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:43 PM   #9
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I'd take it and hope the Ural people have the rigs prepped, I first rode one at a dealers test ride at a BMW rally.It was an 2010 Ural and was spooky on pavement but kind of fun on gravel but I thought I could live without a sidecar but another gentlemen at the rally informed me it was ill prepared and he thought the dealer was remiss. Since then I'm on my second rig and they take a bit to make your own. But I'm sure Ural doing this big marketing drive has them well setup.DB
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:48 PM   #10
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"My question is, even if they determine I am qualified to do the 4 mile test ride is that enough to really make any kind of evaluation? Do you think the basic experience would transfer well to other type of outfits or are they all as different as motorcycles are different? "

No and no (although my only hack experience has been in my Ural).

Perhaps not even what you are considering, but I would discourage anyone from buying a new Ural (or any bike for that matter) simply on the basis of a test ride.
But if you're coming at it from the other angle (I WANT (need) a Ural!), then a test drive may steer you away from making an expensive mistake.
Certainly there are many others on this forum with far more experience with hacks than me, but given that motorcycles are a minority of motor vehicles, hacks are a minority within a minority. Does USCA have a 1000 members?
If you're considering a Ural, I'd +1 Marty's suggestion to hang out at SS for a while. Post up that you'd like a ride and I'm pretty sure someone close to you will show up at your door. I know I would if you were close to me.
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Old 02-19-2014, 04:57 AM   #11
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Hello ...you may also want to contact Doug Bingham. If you are not familiar with Doug google the name. Been around sidecars for about forever. Say hello for me.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:12 AM   #12
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Hello ...you may also want to contact Doug Bingham. If you are not familiar with Doug google the name. Been around sidecars for about forever. Say hello for me.
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That's like a trip from your place, Claude, to Virginia Beach.

Makes for a very long day
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:53 AM   #13
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I took a short test ride and enjoyed it but I would suggest going to a sidecar meet, talking to people who have a sidecar, reading up on the subject and getting on the web site Soviet Steed. Soviet is a great site and for getting information about URALS and sidecars. I read up on sidecars went to meets and checked out web sites. Side hacking is not for everyone so take your time. I am 70 Years Old and wish I had got one earlier. Good Luck. Kayaken John
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:19 AM   #14
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Having JUST done so

in San Diego last weekend, I CAN say that the test ride was for me, enough to have first-hand experience of some of the handling quirks and differences indemic to sidecars. Very enjoyable and enlightening.

This was my first time in/operating a sidecar rig with over 30 years of riding, so it was a big eye-opener.

My take-away was that while I havent ruled one out (any sidecar rig) in my future, it has taken a different position on my bucket-list of bikes and vehicles wanted, as a result of having now operated one if only for a few miles. Errrr, "clicks".

No regrets, and worth the effort to go. My advice though, get there early as the registration and waiting process was rather lengthy.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:58 AM   #15
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You are looking to spend a lot of money on a rig and are willing to go 350 miles for a test ride, Why not before you spend the time to do this instead give your self a mini vacation, take the train or fly up to the Seattle area or any where else for that matter where you can take a S/tep (sidecar trike education program) class. While it is still only in a parking lot it is a couple of days of really good training where you will be able to ride several different rigs not just a Ural.
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