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Old 04-10-2014, 07:41 PM   #16
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FZ1 here. So probably about 40%, and most of that is in throttle usage. I like to open it up from a stop, but I do not really corner hard or brake hard. Speaking of opening it up, I have yet to wheelie, and most say this bike wheelies at will. So, maybe I am using about 25% of total capability
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:02 PM   #17
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Just enough to have a great time!
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:08 PM   #18
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58%

No...

23%


Wait....

85%

Depends on the day, location, my attitude, barometric pressure, prevailing winds, etc, etc.
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:37 PM   #19
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In terms of HP, top speed, handling, braking, tire traction, etc, I would venture to guess 25% at most. I will do some full throttle accelerations from time to time but that accounts for a very small percentage of the miles on the bike. If it matters, I have a torquey Bandit 1250, so the majority of the miles is riding along on in top gear.

Folks that claim they are riding at 85% or more on the street aren't really riding at the peak level the bike is capable of, or unless they are insane (for public road dangers), or are riding a very small displacement bike.

Edited to Add: I've had track days in cars. Its amazing what cars can do when you don't have the worries about other idiots on the road, so I'm guessing bikes are the same.
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:46 PM   #20
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Backing a Harley out of the driveway = 100%
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Old 04-10-2014, 09:46 PM   #21
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Going to agree with you on this point. I know when I'm giving her all I got because my arms feel like they're being pulled off, my hands are probably going "white knuckles" on me and my butt is puckered up a bit. I also know I'm not using no where near the potential of what my bike can serve up. The strange thing is that I want to upgrade to a more powerful bike in the future.

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Old 04-10-2014, 09:49 PM   #22
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I roadraced for 11.years. I found out early that it's much more fun, abd fulfilling, to ride a slow bike fast....than a fast bike slow.

I started out riding an RZ350....with stock brakes ans skinny tires I feel I was getting 90+% of what it could do. Now, in '96, when I bought a ZX-6R, I doubt I was getting 60%, and I had a couple top 3.races.

In 2000 I raced an SV650,.stock.engine, even the stock pipe....I won 20+ races that year, 3.regional championships, and a 3rd at the GNF. I PRETTY confident I was getti.g 90%.out of that bike.

If you're talking street bikes....I doubt anyone is getting 50%.of a modern sportbikes performance out of the machine.....

Off-road, even though I've had some good finishes at hare-scrambles....I'm not getting near the bikes capabilities...mainly due to physical fitness levels more so.than.riding ability.

It's a wide and varied subject matter, it'd be a good discussion with a group someday....I.just ante typing.
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Old 04-11-2014, 07:56 AM   #23
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For a racer I'm sure it's a totally different story. For me, Joe average, I use about 85 or 90% of my performance on every ride. It doesn't matter whether I'm commuting or in the canyons or on a trip. It might be 30% or 80% of what my VFR can do but I always ride to a sensation level of "I'm pushing it but I'm ready if things start to go south". The bike is is just the means..
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:32 AM   #24
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on my S1000RR? 20% on a good day.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:03 AM   #25
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Folks that claim they are riding at 85% or more on the street aren't really riding at the peak level the bike is capable of, or unless they are insane (for public road dangers), or are riding a very small displacement bike.
I tend to look at these statements as the rider saying that they are riding at 85% of their potential skill level, not necessarily the bike potential.

I am pretty sure that I don't cross over 50-75% of the bikes potential. But the upper end of that is reaching the limits of MY current potential.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:16 AM   #26
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Greater than 50%, less than 100%?

I always try to leave a little lean angle but I am WOT most of the time. If I tuck just right I can hit the rev limiter in top gear.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:17 AM   #27
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Weebee r 250r engine 100%
Handling on the street,60%
The stock suspension needs a lot of work!
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:02 AM   #28
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I tend to look at these statements as the rider saying that they are riding at 85% of their potential skill level, not necessarily the bike potential.
That's like saying "you can't read/understand and didn't answer the question".
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:32 AM   #29
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I think people are under estimating their bikes' potential and over estimating how much of that potential they use.... IMHO of course.

I raced a Honda XR650R for one season in the desert and I think toward the end of the season I was starting to use some of the bike's potential - maybe 20%. As my fitness got better, I got stronger and faster the bike came into it's own. It was a beautiful thing to be able to use a machine like that, for what it was designed.
I watch movies like Dust to Glory (the last year the 650R was used in Baja before everyone switched to 450's) or True Champion (the Johhny Campbell story) and I see how those guys ride those bikes and I completely understand how little I was actually using the bike.
After that season I changed over to a KTM525 for desert racing and I immediately knew that I had a very long way to go to even realize 20% of that bike's potential, which is significantly above and beyond what the 650R is capable of.... which is really crazy because of how much faster you can ride a 525.

On the street or even at the track I think I use even less of the bike. Im never near the limit of grip - not like racing in the desert where you're usually near the limit of grip.
I have a Speed Triple and I take it to the track occasionally. Im never the fastest guy out there but certainly never the slowest but I dont think I use the bike to anywhere near 20% of what it's actually capable of.
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:56 AM   #30
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Here is an interesting - and eye opening - experiment to do:

Take two thin strips of duct-tape, about 1/2 inch wide. Wrap one strip around your throttle grip, at the far left side. Take the other strip, and wrap it around the stable part of the handlebars right next to the throttle grip. Next to the tape you just placed on the throttle.

Now take a sharpie, and make a make straight across on both, to signify "Throttle closed".

Now Open the throttle all the way, and now mark the stable tape strip where the throttle side sharpie mark ends up. This signifies "Throttle Wide Open". Now estimate and mark the stable strip at the 1/2, 1/4 and 3/4 open marks.

Now go for a normal, average, everyday ride. Note from time to time exactly where the throttle position is.

You may be surprised to find that normally we only ride with the throttle about 1/4 to 1/3 open. Rarely do we ride with the throttle 1/2 to 3/4 open.

Try it.
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