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Old 04-22-2014, 07:10 AM   #31
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Blur, do you think this would have helped in the injury prevention dept?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281211899726...84.m1497.l2649

I picked one up before the March Moto Madness trip. It does make me feel like a over the hill ninja turtle, but I'm thinking it sure may help especially on the rocks. The collar bone bands are pretty thick & the 3XL fit me really good(6'4-230)....yep they run small.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:27 AM   #32
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Blur, do you think this would have helped in the injury prevention dept?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281211899726...84.m1497.l2649

I picked one up before the March Moto Madness trip. It does make me feel like a over the hill ninja turtle, but I'm thinking it sure may help especially on the rocks. The collar bone bands are pretty thick & the 3XL fit me really good(6'4-230)....yep they run small.
Maybe but there's really no way to know. Injury prevention is hard to predict because the way we tumble in a fall is so hard to predict. Ultimately, the protection we wear is supposed to absorb or deflect the force of impact as much as possible. No protection is going to prevent all injuries 100% of the time.

My mantra has always been "cover your corners". By that, I mean ankle, knees, elbows and shoulders. These points should always be protected.
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:51 AM   #33
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Paging MrTwisty.....

We'll, my mantra had always been "wrap your willy before you get silly"...........oh wait, that's something else. Never mind.

Carry on.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:27 PM   #34
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We'll, my mantra had always been "wrap your willy before you get silly"...........oh wait, that's something else. Never mind.

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Old 04-22-2014, 02:56 PM   #35
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Blur - Your story hasn't changed. When I met you, you told me that your bike lost it's brakes, then when you reapplied the brakes they locked and you went down...........
Hey, Blur

hope you are healing. the internets been smoking a little since you earned so much free time


I spoke to Frijole on the sunday after your biff and he said that you had told him the same thing. Man, I hope that aint a "feature" on the wetheads.
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Old 04-22-2014, 04:22 PM   #36
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hope you are healing. the internets been smoking a little since you earned so much free time


I spoke to Frijole on the sunday after your biff and he said that you had told him the same thing. Man, I hope that aint a "feature" on the wetheads.
I called BMW roadside assistance this morning. A rollback came to my house to pick up my bike. I rode with the tow truck driver to the local dealership. The BMW field service engineer has already been in contact with the dealership. He asked them to hook it up to the computer and see what the computer logs contain.

I don't envy the engineer assigned to this. This is going to be like looking for a needle in a haystack. I have almost 5000 miles on the bike and the brake failure has happened once. Sucks that the one time the brakes didn't work as expected, I crashed.

At this point, I can't do anything but cross my fingers and hope they figure out what the hell is going on.
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Old 04-23-2014, 05:13 AM   #37
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If the computer logs data chronology, as I would expect, the failure data should be near the end of the data log, unless you've been out riding with that broken collar bone.
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:04 AM   #38
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Blur,
Is it possible you were in Enduro mode, instead of Enduro Pro?
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:08 AM   #39
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Was at Tellico Grains Saturday morning. Sorry about taking the last blueberry scone....



Hope you heal up soon.
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:20 AM   #40
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I called BMW roadside assistance this morning. A rollback came to my house to pick up my bike. I rode with the tow truck driver to the local dealership. The BMW field service engineer has already been in contact with the dealership. He asked them to hook it up to the computer and see what the computer logs contain.

I don't envy the engineer assigned to this. This is going to be like looking for a needle in a haystack. I have almost 5000 miles on the bike and the brake failure has happened once. Sucks that the one time the brakes didn't work as expected, I crashed.

At this point, I can't do anything but cross my fingers and hope they figure out what the hell is going on.
It really almost sounds to me like the ABS wasn't actually off and as soon as you started braking from a relatively high speed on gravel, the wheels just kept turning like I would expect to happen trying to slow down going down a steep slope with ABS still on. That is not me doubting that you had turned ABS off, more so that it didn't actually turn off.
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Old 04-23-2014, 02:47 PM   #41
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I'm no expert in motorcycle ABS (never had one), but is it possible to become used to grabbing a handful with ABS on, then over doing it when ABS is off in emergency braking situations? It just sounds like the first attempt locked the front wheel right at the split second when traction went away.

Like I said, I'm no expert, just throwing out ideas in the hope that you will figure it out so you don't doubt your bike.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:28 AM   #42
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If the computer logs data chronology, as I would expect, the failure data should be near the end of the data log, unless you've been out riding with that broken collar bone.
The only time the bike has been ridden since the crash was.... from the crash site to Tellico Grains (by Frijole, about 4 miles) and from my garage onto the rollback. The dealership exported the data Tuesday. I'm still waiting to hear from BMW's field engineer.

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Blur,
Is it possible you were in Enduro mode, instead of Enduro Pro?
The only options I have on my bike are heated grips, cruise, spoked wheels and ABS (of course).

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Was at Tellico Grains Saturday morning. Sorry about taking the last blueberry scone....

Hope you heal up soon.
I got the last lemon scone And, thanks!

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It really almost sounds to me like the ABS wasn't actually off and as soon as you started braking from a relatively high speed on gravel, the wheels just kept turning like I would expect to happen trying to slow down going down a steep slope with ABS still on. That is not me doubting that you had turned ABS off, more so that it didn't actually turn off.
The ABS light was on (which is supposed to indicate that the ABS is off).

When ABS is turned on while on loose surfaces, there's a "chattering" that can be felt (and sometimes heard) when the ABS is doing its job. This chattering didn't occur.


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I'm no expert in motorcycle ABS (never had one), but is it possible to become used to grabbing a handful with ABS on, then over doing it when ABS is off in emergency braking situations? It just sounds like the first attempt locked the front wheel right at the split second when traction went away.

Like I said, I'm no expert, just throwing out ideas in the hope that you will figure it out so you don't doubt your bike.
When I pulled the front brake lever the first time, there was no sensation of slowing, no twisting of the handlebars (indicating lockup), no sound of lockup (like a scratchy rubbing sound), etc. There was just nothing on the first brake lever pull.

As mentioned previously, I have a friend who has experienced brake failure 4 or 5 times on the new wetheads models. I'm really looking forward to hearing from BMW.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:43 AM   #43
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As mentioned previously, I have a friend who has experienced brake failure 4 or 5 times on the new wetheads models. I'm really looking forward to hearing from BMW.
"Zee motorrad is perfect. Operator error on zee part of zee rider." - Don't be shocked if this is the response you get… ad nauseam. Hope you heal up quick Blur.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:52 AM   #44
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"Zee motorrad is perfect. Operator error on zee part of zee rider." - Don't be shocked if this is the response you get… ad nauseam. Hope you heal up quick Blur.


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Old 04-24-2014, 07:04 AM   #45
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I can't believe its been been 16 posts and not one person has picked up on Blur saying this...


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I think about him every time I get in the shower...........


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