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Old 04-17-2014, 07:35 PM   #16
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Have only tried turning the rear tire over once and have to admit felt no difference (tire was two thirds gone at the time) might have even felt worse on the braking side. Their is something to be said for the mental aspect of having a new tire in bad conditions even at my level.
I have always felt new tires some how inspire confidence or maybe some false pride. The funny thing I would like to know, new tires actually take time to hook up as good as my worn out tires! So how does that work for the worlds top 5 best riders. Do they always ride with new tires, so they do not notice? Or more likely they have a compound similar to the days of old when only factory riders had the Michelin X11`s.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:12 PM   #17
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Sheeeet. I ran this tire for 6 years, then changed it only after the inner tube started sun-rotting -






Can I tell the difference between this front tire and the new one?

No.

Just sayin'
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:19 PM   #18
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These tires are such an ordeal to seat, and a scary ordeal at that, I ain't flipping a tire for nothing.

Just put the worn one in the truck and give it away........if you can.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:47 PM   #19
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I have always felt new tires some how inspire confidence or maybe some false pride. The funny thing I would like to know, new tires actually take time to hook up as good as my worn out tires! So how does that work for the worlds top 5 best riders. Do they always ride with new tires, so they do not notice? Or more likely they have a compound similar to the days of old when only factory riders had the Michelin X11`s.
My guess, a little bit of that spin the tire on purpose to heat it up and sand off the smooth stuff and find the traction in about 60 seconds...

Just a guess... It would work like track day tire warming...
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Old 04-18-2014, 04:33 AM   #20
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My favorite Ryan story (hope I'm remembering correctly) is when he was going to hold a trials school for vintage riders. The date he had to do it happened to be on the weekend of a vintage event, and he didn't get nearly enough students to make holding the class worthwhile. So he rode the event on a vintage bike, and changed to a set of vintage (old) tires "to make things fair". He won the event A good rider can make crap equipment look fantastic.
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Old 04-18-2014, 05:57 AM   #21
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I am sure that fresh tires make a difference in snotty conditions. We just don't run into that much out here.
I did notice at the nationals at Sipapu that most top riders spooned new tires on just about every bike before comp day.
Well......actually, someone spooned them on for them!
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:03 AM   #22
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Btw, the Michelin I just ordered was $170. WTF? A truck tire is about the same!!!
Yeah, hurt$, but I still buy them because they are so good and last me a few years. Dunlop 803 is about half. Not sure how long Michelin can sustain that posture.

Burdensome is how many machines I maintain on the ranch. I counted 42 tires on the many and varied machines :-( Just changed the small tractor tires by hand. Try $550 per tire doing it myself! When the backhoe needs rear tires, which was yesterday... sheesh.

We often only think about tread, but the carcass get a combo of fatigued and stiffer after a long while. New tires have a nice combo of absorption and spring. This lingers into rounded knobs, but the super-used tires feel dead to me. I've bought used bikes with Grapes of Wrath tires, put new ones on and what a difference!

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Old 04-18-2014, 06:08 AM   #23
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One of our regional riders refuses to run mich lite tires and runs only Dunlop he says they last twice as long and sometimes 3-4 times as long if the mich lite ruins because of a flat (sidewall problems) and he can run less pressure in the Dunlop with out popping the bead when he hops and bounces. If you figure $85 for one dunlop and $300 for 2 mich lites mich thats a big difference. He won the top class at the regionals last year so why spend the bucks.
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