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Old 04-25-2014, 11:41 AM   #46
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Well, what is it about "Road Closed" that you don't understand? The world would be a nicer place if people could follow the law.
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I'm wondering how some of the logic exhibited in this thread would pan out, if applied to this sign;


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Old 04-25-2014, 01:10 PM   #47
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Old 04-25-2014, 04:13 PM   #48
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As we learned from our large New Jersey friend, there are Road Closures and there are "Road Closures"...

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Old 04-26-2014, 12:38 AM   #49
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Well, what is it about "Road Closed" that you don't understand? The world would be a nicer place if people could follow the law.
In my experience the world is a nicer place where people don't take laws so serious.
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Old 04-26-2014, 03:38 PM   #50
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Well, what is it about "Road Closed" that you don't understand? The world would be a nicer place if people could follow the law.
I think you may have taken some posts, at least mine, out of context.

I don't ride through when I see workers. I don't ride across dangerous hazards any more or less than when I am off-road, sometimes you just turn around, etc.
I have crossed some when I see minor construction that would make it hard for some or all cars to fit through that are easy for a bike, or dirt section that is easy for an ADV bike to ride. Etc. I have saved time and sometimes then found I had a 10 mile stretch of now open twisty curvy road.road

I hope You yourself NEVER break the law..

Don't ever go 5 mph over the speed limit?

Declare your owed sales tax on all internet purchases to your state?

Restrict your sex to the missionary position only in half the southern states?

Come to a 100% complete stop before making a right on red! even when no one else is anywhere near you on the road?

The list can go on, the question I was posing was "when it appears to be reasonable to do so" which I think should generally apply to any decision.

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Old 04-27-2014, 12:10 AM   #51
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amen wraith rider!

"In my experience the world is a nicer place where people don't take laws so serious."

... and after living in a variety of places in the us & abroad, it seems that the ability of folks to take responsibility for their own actions is inversely proportional to the number of gov't rules/laws....

...& i will go through road closures.... sometimes it works, sometimes it causes trouble - i will think 2x before doing it on a rainy night again!

cheers kids!
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:08 AM   #52
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The "Danger High Voltage" sign compares better to "Blasting Area" or "Artillery Range".

I suppose you can compare "High Voltage" to a rarely traveled road with too many potholes or a culvert half out. To me they compare like night and day.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:15 AM   #53
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Here in So. Calif. there have been many people ignored the "Danger Hi-Voltage" signs while stealing copper wire....I don't know if they couldn't read or if they didn't believe the message but the Gene Pool was reduced.
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:20 PM   #54
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The "Danger High Voltage" sign compares better to "Blasting Area" or "Artillery Range".

I suppose you can compare "High Voltage" to a rarely traveled road with too many potholes or a culvert half out. To me they compare like night and day.
You're right.
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:56 PM   #55
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Signs are only suggestions to make you conform to another’s selfish demands. If there is something beyond the sign I want to see I would ignore the sign and go see it. I am able to determine for myself what I can and will do.
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Old 04-27-2014, 04:07 PM   #56
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Not always. Having lived here all my life and having had a father that was a DOT traffic control engineer I can vouch for the fact that they aren't always only a few miles longer. ODOT will usually only use state and US routes for detours, sometimes adding far more than a few miles to a detour. I also can tell you that by experience. Now county, city, and township detours may use immediate roadways. The state has to be careful due to both volume and GVW when running detours.

Oh, and "well marked" will depend on the ODOT division or local government as to how well they mark a route. Some are good, some are horrible.
Yep, here in Kentucky the detour sign is probably the last signage you will see regarding said detour. You are on your own to create your own detour and find your way.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:26 PM   #57
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you should have turned around as soon as you saw him
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Old 04-29-2014, 05:35 PM   #58
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I read an article someplace about some mountain bikers who chose to ride down into the Grand Canyon during the closure, and got caught. Lost all eight of their bikes, got arrested, all kinds of fun stuff. Don't even get me started on the worthless "public officials" and that BS.

Way back when that road up to Big Bear got washed out (Winter 2010 I think) in SoCal, I wanted badly to go see the wash-out in person. I rode up a dirt trail that was 50 miles from San Bernardino one way and came to a locked gate and a bunch of big boulders I just couldn't get over. Or I would have. Ended up riding back down. Just as well, as I later read that CHP actually patrolled that stretch of road because of that sort of thing. I hate cops.

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Darn those cops trying to prevent people from going into unsafe places, where said people are much more likely to need tens of thousands of dollars worth of emergency services in order to extract them from said unsafe area. Darn them to heck.
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Old 04-29-2014, 05:38 PM   #59
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Comply? Ignore?
Discuss.

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Old 04-29-2014, 06:11 PM   #60
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I ride an Adventure bike which forces me to look for adventure. Coming across a road closed sign is an open invitation to explore the world around me. So in closing I say, screw the signs and ride on brothers!
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