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Old 05-05-2014, 07:58 PM   #16
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I have a DRZ myself, and a cracked rib from last weekend(Warped X). Sneezing feels reel good.
The DRZ is a fun ride. Get one and go nuts.
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Old 05-05-2014, 08:29 PM   #17
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Faster I don't need - this had just the right amount of power to keep me out of trouble... lighter, sounds fun but I probably shouldn't outweigh the bike. it might give me a complex

Thanks for the reminder on the breathing thing. They gave me this "inspired volume" meter thing I'm supposed to breathe through every 10m while I'm awake.

Tell me more about your Incentive spirometer



Usually it's ten times per hour while awake, inhale, hold for 2 seconds, exhale. That probably feels really good with your two broken ribs


I wish you a speedy recovery!
As a fellow noob I am crashing and burning fairly often as well. No broken ribs though...
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:25 AM   #18
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I'm glad you had fun and are relatively OK

I started riding dirt at 47 and love it! I've been riding about a year and half, each time I go out I learn so much more. For example, buying an armored shirt with rib protection Haven't broken any, but I've banged them up a couple of times pretty good. OUCH!!!!! I can't even imagine the pain from broken ribs…. I know what you mean about getting older and ouchies, I knocked myself out and screwed up my shoulder from a stupid move on a ride last fall…..still hurts

I have a drz - I find it to be a good compromise between the 250s like the wr and the bigger klr. It's a pig, but, a smaller choice of pig. Does fine on the freeway on the way to the dirt.

I've also been on some "noob" rides with experienced riders….. "oh, yeah, anybody can ride this…" "It's a great route for a noob"
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:14 AM   #19
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My spirometer is a little different... I like that one.



Today I get to go to the dr. Hospital called last night and they found more on the CT scan... wont talk to me over the phone. Yay... what could it be?

Now all the neighborhood wives are talking and conspiring against me 'doing it again' as if dirt is more dangerous than riding the streets every day Oh, crap, don't tell them I said that!
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:11 AM   #20
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Well, what else hurts?

Torn spleen, fractured spine, shoulder issues, collapsed lung...
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:59 PM   #21
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I'm surprised it has not been mentioned yet, but what kind of friend lends you the bigger bike and takes the smaller one. Is he afraid of his wife kicking his butt if someone touches her bike. Like many things, you take someone out with the idea you will have a future riding buddy. Whether skiing, hiking, kayaking or mountain biking, the faster rider keeps a ride out for the Noob. Nothing wrong with starting out and an experienced rider is going to see your level of skill right away. I blame your injuries on your buddy, as well. He should have rode home and got something to come back and get the bike and you.

Broken ribs suck and actually heal fast, too. One day they will hurt like all get out, then the next day you won't even recognize they hurt anymore.

Start with a smaller bike. A 250 gives you plenty of time to learn the innate skills of riding a dirt bike. Too many "older" guys can't adjust their desire (ego) of getting that big bike, like a Harley, Goldwing, Adventure bike, before they put in their time on a small bike. When the stuff hits the fan, on a big bike, the lessons you learned on a smaller bike (when you were younger) will come back and help. There is always a benefit in starting with a small bike, then sell it as your skill level climbs, or keep it for someone else to ride with you. Just be a better friend, to this new riding buddy, than someone was to you.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:48 PM   #22
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A DRZ400 is actually a pretty large and top-heavy bike - not the kind of thing I would want to learn to ride dirt on. Consider a CRF250L, WR250R or KLX250S. Or even an XT250, TW200 or similar.

OP - you didn't mention if you were wearing any protective gear. If you're getting into dirt biking, you should definitely invest $150 or so into some armor and definitely, definitely put some money toward proper MX boots. Do not skip this essential gear, or you'll spend a lot more in hospital rooms. They'll feel weird to begin with but search "protruding tibia" on this forum and you're sure to find many, many posts of guys whose DRZs fell on their legs and broke them because they were using street boots in the dirt.

Also - you mention that you kept going down the hill even with the rear wheel locked. Get used to your rear brake being almost useless - as soon as you start braking, all the weight of the bike goes to the front wheel. Especially on steep downhills, position your body all the way over the rear wheel and use the front brake as much as possible, the back brake sparingly.

My advice is to start out on some easier trails with a willing coach to get the basics down before you rack up any more medical fees. Heal fast!
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:49 PM   #23
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I'm surprised it has not been mentioned yet, but what kind of friend lends you the bigger bike and takes the smaller one. Is he afraid of his wife kicking his butt if someone touches her bike. Like many things, you take someone out with the idea you will have a future riding buddy. Whether skiing, hiking, kayaking or mountain biking, the faster rider keeps a ride out for the Noob. Nothing wrong with starting out and an experienced rider is going to see your level of skill right away. I blame your injuries on your buddy, as well. He should have rode home and got something to come back and get the bike and you.
Good points.
You are exactly right, he's looking for someone to go riding with. I'm a very experienced street rider and that may have been part of the problem.

He offered either bike but the 400 seemed to fit me a ton better where the 250 was set up for his wife and he was quite cramped on it. She doesn't ride much anymore so it was more of me thinking I'd do better if I could focus on riding rather than trying to be comfortable. Also, inexperience on my part... I've ridden the GSA on dirt, 1//3 the size sounds small I was wrong but it honestly wasn't the bike that got me. It was me not yet knowing how to ride real dirt well. Downhill and turning at any speed is still hard for me... what with all of now 2 hours on a dirtbike in the dirt.

We didn't know I was hurt as bad as I was, and I wouldn't have admitted it anyhow. He offered several times to go get his truck but I kept saying that I was fine and just needed a break. You know how it goes. Here's how sick I am... I was glad something was officially wrong with me so he wouldn't be able to call me a pussy.

I learned a lot the other day. While there is room for some ego on the street, in the dirt I need to be much more honest with myself. Stuff can go wrong real fast on the dirt with almost no warning. I know better, I know I should have ridden my own ride but having chickened out before, I was committed to do this or die trying I want to push my comfort zone, I did that and had a blast.

Time will tell if this injury was a good thing. CT scan found something in my abdomen. Another scan on Friday. I hope it's noting but it may have just saved my life. (or it might not have).

What it comes down to is that I'm a stubborn SOB and I'm 100% at fault.
1. I didn't ride my ride
2. I didn't admit I was injured
3. I didn't care I was injured and decided to "man up" - although this just exacerbated pain and not the injury

He was concerned for me, didn't care about the bike. He tried to make me take the 250 but I was convinced the 250 couldn't handle my fat ass. Next time will be better.

I still can't wait to get back out there though! I blame this place for that.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:55 PM   #24
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AOP - you didn't mention if you were wearing any protective gear. If you're getting into dirt biking, you should definitely invest $150 or so into some armor and definitely, definitely put some money toward proper MX boots. Do not skip this essential gear, or you'll spend a lot more in hospital rooms. They'll feel weird to begin with but search "protruding tibia" on this forum and you're sure to find many, many posts of guys whose DRZs fell on their legs and broke them because they were using street boots in the dirt.
I was wearing:
Arai XD4 - dual sport helmet
Tourmaster 3/4 mesh with elbow, shoulder and back armor (hard armor)
First Gear overpants with knee and hip armor
Lee Parks Elkskin full gauntlet gloves - damn those were hot
Forma GT Adventure boots

I also own an EVS G6 pressure suit but didn't wear it because it shrunk and I had to ride a long way to the park on the streets.

I'd like to get some quality knee braces because beyond head and hands, knees are my next biggest concern.

Dedicated MX boots will come if I keep doing this and I'll wear the pressure suit more as well.

I don't have a single bruise or scratch (so far). So I think the gear helped.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:02 PM   #25
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I was wearing:
Arai XD4 - dual sport helmet
Tourmaster 3/4 mesh with elbow, shoulder and back armor (hard armor)
First Gear overpants with knee and hip armor
Lee Parks Elkskin full gauntlet gloves - damn those were hot
Forma GT Adventure boots

I also own an EVS G6 pressure suit but didn't wear it because it shrunk and I had to ride a long way to the park on the streets.

I'd like to get some quality knee braces because beyond head and hands, knees are my next biggest concern.

Dedicated MX boots will come if I keep doing this and I'll wear the pressure suit more as well.

I don't have a single bruise or scratch (so far). So I think the gear helped.
Sounds like you were pretty well decked out then! Apart from chest protection. You may consider something like a Fox Titan to go underneath your mesh. I seldom go off road without it because it provides much better impact protection, particularly to the ribs and arms. It's also not unbearably hot, which is a deal breaker in Houston in the summer. If you wear this, you can ditch your mesh when you hit the trail - you probably won't need abrasion protection off-road.

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Old 05-06-2014, 10:09 PM   #26
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Good points.
You are exactly right, he's looking for someone to go riding with. I'm a very experienced street rider and that may have been part of the problem.

He offered either bike but the 400 seemed to fit me a ton better where the 250 was set up for his wife and he was quite cramped on it. She doesn't ride much anymore so it was more of me thinking I'd do better if I could focus on riding rather than trying to be comfortable. Also, inexperience on my part... I've ridden the GSA on dirt, 1//3 the size sounds small I was wrong but it honestly wasn't the bike that got me. It was me not yet knowing how to ride real dirt well. Downhill and turning at any speed is still hard for me... what with all of now 2 hours on a dirtbike in the dirt.

We didn't know I was hurt as bad as I was, and I wouldn't have admitted it anyhow. He offered several times to go get his truck but I kept saying that I was fine and just needed a break. You know how it goes. Here's how sick I am... I was glad something was officially wrong with me so he wouldn't be able to call me a pussy.

I learned a lot the other day. While there is room for some ego on the street, in the dirt I need to be much more honest with myself. Stuff can go wrong real fast on the dirt with almost no warning. I know better, I know I should have ridden my own ride but having chickened out before, I was committed to do this or die trying I want to push my comfort zone, I did that and had a blast.

Time will tell if this injury was a good thing. CT scan found something in my abdomen. Another scan on Friday. I hope it's noting but it may have just saved my life. (or it might not have).

What it comes down to is that I'm a stubborn SOB and I'm 100% at fault.
1. I didn't ride my ride
2. I didn't admit I was injured
3. I didn't care I was injured and decided to "man up" - although this just exacerbated pain and not the injury

He was concerned for me, didn't care about the bike. He tried to make me take the 250 but I was convinced the 250 couldn't handle my fat ass. Next time will be better.

I still can't wait to get back out there though! I blame this place for that.
You have it licked, that most don't even understand. You are honest with yourself, and allowing others to learn from what happened to you. That makes you a quality person and helps me understand better the person you were riding with, too.

I have done a lot of vintage and late model racing at a national level and many things are the same here. Plus riding for 4 decades. Too often I see people get on something, car, horse, Harley and their ego can't admit that they are new at this, or this area, after riding a different bike/environment. You are right about dirt, then Sand, then Shale, downhill and jumping. The fact is there is a steep learning curve in all of it. Glad to see you are not giving it up either. Sounds like you know what to do, just need the right time to put it into action.

Heal up, somebody needs to sale you a motorcycle, one day.

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Old 05-07-2014, 11:39 AM   #27
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I had written about some of my "exploits" in learning to ride dirt (mostly by myself) and a very nice guy - who turned out to be a msf instructor - offered to take me riding. I wouldn't have advanced anywhere near as quickly without him and I completely trust his judgement on what I can and can't ride. If you can find a mentor like that rather than buddies who will throw you on any trail they think is OK () - been there done that too - you'll be golden. There are also a lot of great schools out there.

I hope the image on the CT scan turns out to be something relatively minor or early taken care of. Keep us posted!
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:09 AM   #28
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For those saying the DRZ is too big for a noob, this guy is a BIG noob. At 6'2" he should have had no issue with the DRZ size, unless he is all torso. Power didn't get him in trouble, gravity did. Me being 5'-6", I would have had a terrible time trying to get started with a DRZ, my KLX was barely passable and I had it lowered 1" for the first year I had it.


Regarding the rib injury, what type of armor would really protect against that? I haven't purchased any off road armor yet as I'm still not sure of what to get really. MX chest protector, pressure suit, other? Presently I wear my street gear which has padding and foam elbow/knee guards.
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:39 PM   #29
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Tomorrow is the big day for me... Going to see the doctor to get the results of a 2nd CT scan.
They didn't like what they saw in the 1st one and had a second done on Friday with injected dye and a barium 'smoothie'

If I get cleared tomorrow by the dr, then the search is on for a DRZ400 of my own.

Thought I was special because I wasn't hurting anymore so I stopped with the meds yesterday. By the time I gave in and took them last night I was in pretty bad pain. Today was no better... meds finally catching up again tonight. I guess I don't have magic healing powers after all!
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:57 PM   #30
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I was an avid vert skateboarder for 20+ years and broke many bones over the years, but the ribs were the most frequently broken bones in my body. I learned not to reach out when falling, but generally that meant punching my elbow into my ribcage on a big slam. I was too cool to wear anything more than knee pads and a helmet back then.

Now I wear a Troy Lee Hot Weather Shirt and TL elbow/forearm pads under a jersey and while I have taken quite a few very hard falls, I have not had the pleasure of any broken ribs while wearing this kit. The rib protection is excellent, and the gear is light and flexible.
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