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Old 06-12-2014, 08:29 AM   #91
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I also have a final masters project due so this will help me dedicate the time I need to it.
Yup, I remember those 11 hour days in graduate school. Killing two birds with one stone...good for you.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:17 PM   #92
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:13 AM   #93
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If I said it once, I've said t a thousand times, washing the bike is the root cause of all mechanical issues. I went all spring with no stepper/idle issues, I started having problems within a week of washing the bike

Something may be in your water Noodle

I don't usually wash unless I hit mud, but at the very least it gets washed once a month.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:24 AM   #94
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Nice!
Not all that extreme, but quality Tiger porn none the less
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:46 AM   #95
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Thanks dude! You just populated my Christmas list!!!
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:50 PM   #96
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Wow, what a great collection of real life off-road riding on the Tiger!

And a HUGE thanks for not overlaying a bunch musical sound tracks. I really wanted to listen to the engine to get a feel for how it worked, where you guys were riding in the rev range, how it clutches out of a tight spot etc., thanks again for leaving the sound tracks natural.

I have been interested in this bike to replace my KLR for some time. I have test ridden both the XC and roadie, but just the usual demo ride stuff.

From reading through this and watching the videos I gather the following are problem areas to address.

1. Lower the gearing, at least going 1 tooth down on the front. Is that enough?

2. Bike protection, a seriously good skid plate is needed that protects the oil filter etc. What else? Crash bars are obvious but what's critical?

3. The idle speed stepper motor is subject to dirt build up causing it to stop working. I'll read some more on fixes for that.

4. Probably upgraded clutch plates. Are the Barnett Kevlar plates working out?

I also heard a few stalls, does anybody make a heavier flywheel or flywheel add-on like the ones Steahly makes for other bikes?

What are the key things I'd need to consider moving from a KLR to the Tiger XC? I'm an experienced dirt rider and have a DRZ for the gnarlier stuff. I probably wouldn't go into some the more extreme places boinoodle posted up with this bike, but some of the other stuff is about what I'd be riding.

I already know it would be far superior once the pavement hits (a key reason for my interest in it), I'm just trying to figure out how it would stack up in the dirt. I know it's a bit heavier with a little higher center of gravity. What else?

Thanks again for showing what the bike is capable of.
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:15 PM   #97
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One of the better GoPro Tiger videos I've seen. The quadcopter footage is fantastic. Great editing. I couldn't quite tell, but are you running an Arrow pipe? Your bike definitely had more lower-end growl than stock.
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Old 06-14-2014, 06:41 PM   #98
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One of the better GoPro Tiger videos I've seen. The quadcopter footage is fantastic. Great editing. I couldn't quite tell, but are you running an Arrow pipe? Your bike definitely had more lower-end growl than stock.

Thanks. A good friend actually shot and edited the video. He's a Professor of Technology at Georgia College, so I'd say he's pretty tech savvy. My bike actually has the stock pipe. He dubbed the sound from his Tiger 1050 to the video.
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:23 PM   #99
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Excellent video. Selling my Dakar, might be drifting this way for a second bike. This has certainly given it some merit.
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:28 AM   #100
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1. Lower the gearing, at least going 1 tooth down on the front. Is that enough?

2. Bike protection, a seriously good skid plate is needed that protects the oil filter etc. What else? Crash bars are obvious but what's critical?

3. The idle speed stepper motor is subject to dirt build up causing it to stop working. I'll read some more on fixes for that.

4. Probably upgraded clutch plates. Are the Barnett Kevlar plates working out?

I also heard a few stalls, does anybody make a heavier flywheel or flywheel add-on like the ones Steahly makes for other bikes?

What are the key things I'd need to consider moving from a KLR to the Tiger XC? I'm an experienced dirt rider and have a DRZ for the gnarlier stuff. I probably wouldn't go into some the more extreme places boinoodle posted up with this bike, but some of the other stuff is about what I'd be riding.
1. 15 tooth works fine. I might try one tooth larger on the rear when I swap rear sprocket and chain. Might as well order the 15 tooth when you buy the bike, as it's a necessary change.

2. Not sure there is a good belly plate on the market that protects the oil filter. I used an Altrider plate and built a small removable plate to cover the filter:



3. Stepper motor is a weak point, but wouldn't keep me from buying the bike again. I cleaned and used dry lube about 1500 miles ago, and the issue has not appeared again. Jury is still out.

4. I think I am the first one to try the Barnett clutches, but they have not yet arrived. As soon as they arrive I will install to make sure they work and report back. The fun part is next...torture testing the clutch plates.

Crash guard discussion elsewhere, and lots of opinions, so using search is the best way to find this info...

Finally, KLR is a very capable machine (we replaced two with the Tiger), but the fun factor of the Tiger is no comparison...IMHO
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:52 AM   #101
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Boinoodle and I spent an eventful weekend redoing the hero sections of the BBA from a few weeks ago. The videos are being edited, but just to preface, there was a lot of water. Some sections more so than the original wet ride, which boinoodle did, but not me. Pretty much the whole ride was a Hero to most people. Some big mud holes, some big spills, noodle's bike dies in the middle of nowhere followed by my tiger dragging it by the leash 1.5miles back through the mud and wet to civilization. Yea. Got the video to prove it....

The last time I was this sore, was doing the non-adventure bike ride at the Berkshire Triple. Again, mostly due to picking up 500lbs multiple times out of the mud, and because I was following boinoodle.

Expected to be dirtier, but then again, it was getting washed most of the ride.

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Old 06-16-2014, 05:12 PM   #102
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Iím interested in that in that Banret clutch too. Iím not real happy with the stock one. I would also love to find a weighted fly wheel. the bike is very capable as you can see but the one thing I didnít think about when switching from my KLR is picking it up. Iíve also raised mine and that makes it even harder. I think with a new clutch and a weighted flywheel I wouldnít have to pick it up near as much because most of the time I drop it itís on a hill, it stalls and the ground is either out of reach or slick.
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:14 AM   #103
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Wow, what a great collection of real life off-road riding on the Tiger!

From reading through this and watching the videos I gather the following are problem areas to address.

2. Bike protection, a seriously good skid plate is needed that protects the oil filter etc. What else? Crash bars are obvious but what's critical?
The SWmotech plate covers the oil filter completely. Some don't like the fact that it's rivetted but it has survived 26000 miles of use on my bike. It is there to protect the sump and filter from flying stones and does that job very well.
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:25 AM   #104
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Speaking of clutches, the rage in some other adventure bike threads have been the Auto-clutches, like the enduro bikes use.

I wonder how long before one is adapted for the Tiger as it seems like a good way to mediate the tall gearing and prevent stalls. EFM and Rekluse don't list a Tiger application at this time.

There are certainly aspects of the auto-clutch operation that might be less desirable, but overall it could be the best option to extend clutch life for those doing more serious dirt work that would otherwise require feathering the lever and slipping the clutch.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:02 AM   #105
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Speaking of clutches, the rage in some other adventure bike threads have been the Auto-clutches, like the enduro bikes use.

I wonder how long before one is adapted for the Tiger as it seems like a good way to mediate the tall gearing and prevent stalls. EFM and Rekluse don't list a Tiger application at this time.

There are certainly aspects of the auto-clutch operation that might be less desirable, but overall it could be the best option to extend clutch life for those doing more serious dirt work that would otherwise require feathering the lever and slipping the clutch.
That's an interesting thought, I didn't know there were retrofits.

The other thing that would be amazing, is the enduro? mode the BMW's have that cut fuel and timing and HP back something like 40% to make it more usable off road without the touchy throttle of a high powered bike. Seems like that would be programmable with a switch if someone wanted to get crafty.
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