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Old 06-22-2015, 09:31 PM   #1
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What should i get? CT90, ST90 or SL90

Hi guys.
I am new to the forum. Just moved to California from Hungary.
Looking to get a small light fun bike to run around town. Make some small road trips (max 50 miles) Mostly on small roads, and a little light offroad.
I currently own a Valkyrie 1500 , and hate the thing
I want something light and small. With a lower seat height so my wife can learn on it too. She is a small lady 5'1".
I used to ride on a Simson S51 enduro when i was a young lad . Looking for something similar style , with more power and 4 stroke engine.
I never ridden a small ccm 4 stroke , so dont know what to expect.
Would a small Honda suit my needs?
What should be best a CT90 , ST90 or SL90 or should i look for something bigger like the yamaha TW200?

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Old 06-22-2015, 09:41 PM   #2
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Here is a pic of a Simson S51 in case there is someone who not familiar with the wonders of DDR
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:01 PM   #3
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While the ct90, st90, and cl90 all share basically the same engine, the bikes are drastically different.

St90 is cool, but small.

Cl90 is a touch heavier, so slower.

Ct90 might or might not have the dual range transmission, it's also lightweight.

Out of the given 3, I'd say the CT.

Comparing to a tw200, is apples and oranges, and a tw200 is more weight, and more $$. You can probably get 2 decent ct90's for one nice tw...... Then you and your wife can both ride one.
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:14 PM   #4
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While the ct90, st90, and cl90 all share basically the same engine, the bikes are drastically different.

St90 is cool, but small.

Cl90 is a touch heavier, so slower.

Ct90 might or might not have the dual range transmission, it's also lightweight.

Out of the given 3, I'd say the CT.

Comparing to a tw200, is apples and oranges, and a tw200 is more weight, and more $$. You can probably get 2 decent ct90's for one nice tw...... Then you and your wife can both ride one.
Thanks Villageidiot!

I am not strictly looking for that 3 model , but cant think any other small 4 stroke bike. Open to any suggestions!
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:20 PM   #5
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Xl125
Xt225
Dr200
Ct110
Sym symba
Elite 80
Elite 150
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:01 PM   #6
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Xl125
Xt225
Dr200
Ct110
Sym symba
Elite 80
Elite 150
Well i know its the scooter forum, bu i pass on the Elite
I dont need plastic arround me, and i like shifting gears :)

What is the difference in CT90 and CT110 other than ccm?

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Old 06-23-2015, 05:54 AM   #7
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How big a feller are ya?

How long are your legs? It's the inseam not the overall height FWIW.

There's a bunch of small cc bikes to choose from and an off road MC tends to be long legged seat height but also that little engine has to drag you around. For some "bodies" a 125cc'd OK for others a 250 may be far more logical.

If, the riding involves pavement until you arrive at non pavement than a thumper like KLR or BMW650 makes sense.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:12 AM   #8
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Look for a nice old Honda CB125. Honda is exceptional at supporting all of their older bikes (with the exception of bodywork, that is discontinued quickly). They have a low seat height and are lightweight. There are quite a few nice ones out there even though they haven't been made in a long, long time. If you want something a little more dirt oriented, look for an older XR250L or XL250. Nice ones are a little harder to find because they were mostly ridden hard and put away wet.

The Suzuki DR200SE would also be a good choice, as previously mentioned, for her.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:04 AM   #9
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Thanks.
Well i am an average guy i would think with 5'10" and 190 Lbs. Dont know my leg arm arm lenght .
As i said i like to use it in the little town where i live to run around, so pavement involved. I dont really like the feel and look of offroad bikes. with big thin wheels and long front travel. Am more after a scrambler kinda thing.
Something what i can ride on the road , but can take some mild off road, and uneven road surface , without feeling bad about it (not like with the Valkyrie)
+ my wife is very small with short legs. I even had to get her a 24" wheel mountain bike , because adult size too tall for her
So i want something universal , like the old bikes used to be (Simson, MZ250)
Not so damn specialized on one field like most of them now days.
Oh and i forgot to mention under 2000$
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:42 AM   #10
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Probably a CT90 because you might find one. As cool as the ST90 is, you're talking about a bike sold here for one year almost 50 years ago. And it's too bad they don't make small standards like the CB100 today. But most Americans are 75 lbs. heavier than they were in the 1960s so I guess that's the reason.

PS: I own a 125cc PCX and a Valkyrie. The Valkyrie is good for going out for breakfast in the neighboring state. It is insulted if you wake it up and ride less than 100 miles. It sucks in town. I always take the PCX to work and short trips.
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:47 AM   #11
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This page will show the differences in the various years of CT90/110.

http://ct90-ct110.com/CT-Gallery.html

I've had one or more CTs in the garage for 40+ years. They're great as long as you don't have to go fast. The biggest drawback is the ancient 6V electrical system and the ignition system that needs a charged battery to run.

My current one is a modified 68 CT90 with a Lifan 140cc engine. The reason is much more power and reliability, and a modern 12V electrical system that doesn't require a battery at all.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:30 AM   #12
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If you like shifting and are going to ride two up, how about the Suzuki TU250x?

I don't think this would be considered a large bike by anyone's standards, but at least you would have a couple of extra HP for riding with your wife. Just a thought....
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%...13/TU250X.aspx

EDIT- the under $2000 may be an issue, but do some hunting on Craigslist, maybe you'll find a deal on a used one.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:47 PM   #13
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Tu never came to CA AFAIK.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:26 PM   #14
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Thanks for all the input.
I really like the TU but not the X version more like the
Suzuki TU250G Grasstracker ot the Kawa 250 tr even more. But they over the budget, veryyy hard to find, and 300Lbs.
I think i look for a nice CT110 , that will surely keep its value. Then if we grow it out, we get something bigger.
Thank you all for the ideas

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Old 06-23-2015, 07:38 PM   #15
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https://monterey.craigslist.org/mcy/5081518470.html

there tu 250 for 2800 in monterey with 7300 miles on it. As for the honda as others have said a ct90 since you can find them and parts can be got from dratv. You also could buy sym wolf 150 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/5085772591.html they are asking 2 grand for this one. Basily a cb125 honda .
Here a honda cl125 which is the same engine as cb125 but scrambler style
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ws...087730666.html

Your last choose is finding the SYM SYMBA 100cc which is the ct90 but in most ways a better bike due to updates. 1 couple did a world tour on them and not much went wrong next to loose bolts. THey run about 2500 new .
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