Trip master,RNS, ICO, & Roadbook tips and tricks

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Mudguts, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. homerj

    homerj 742 Evergreen Terrace

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    IIRC there is only one bolt on the brake disc with a magnet that triggers the OEM speedo. It's also possible that the speedo magnet is in one of the slots of the brake disc. That magnet should be powerful enough to trip the ICO sensor as well (assuming it's on the same fork leg as the OEM speedo and passing w.in a CM or so of the ICO sensor). If the OEM magnet is not up to the task of tripping your ICO sensor you can either A) place your ICO Magnet right next to/on top of the OEM bolt, or B) remove the magnetic bolt and use the ICO magnet instead. It should trigger the KTM speedo just fine. If you want to test the ICO magnet/KTM speedo combo just remove the brake caliper and wave quickly wave the magnet back and forth over the sensor. You should see speed register on KTM speedo.
  2. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    Unfortunately, the big KTMs do things a bit differently; the sensor itself is magnetic and the six brake rotor bolts are just regular bolts and it "counts" them passing across the magnetic sensor so the solution you described will not work on the SE. I think gluing a magnet onto the rotor for the ICO sensor spoils everything...not sure what else I can do but I'm certain someone may have figured it out already.
  3. homerj

    homerj 742 Evergreen Terrace

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    Gotcha. I think I avoided all of this drama on my 950 Adv by routing the Trailtech sensor down the other fork leg and gluing the magnet to the other brake disc. Good Luck.
  4. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    If I only had that option...the SE is a single brake disc bike :)

    Thanks for your input nonetheless.
  5. Tocov

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    Hi guys, maybe the question already popped up, but does anyone know where to buy RB paper rolls (A5 - F2R 730)? I've done already 5 stores, specialised in paper stuff, but no one can help me.. and using tape to tape together 40 pages or more.. pfff.. after awhile I'm sick and tired of it :-)
    The online stuff is ok, don't need to go to a real shop.. As long as it is in Europe.. Sorry guys from the US, but the shipping costs are high and the customs here in Belgium are difficult and it takes a month or more to get my stuff.
  6. HogWild

    HogWild Skott Whitknee

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  7. Mudguts

    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    An idea has just sprung into my hear in regard to the 6 bolt speedo pick and the ICO magnet , simply replace the bolt closest to the magnet with a stainless bolt or non ferrous bolt , not sure if it will work but easy to test .
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    Mudguts when in doubt GAS IT

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    This is a hard as most printing machines a sheet fed these days unless it is a web press ( roll might be a bit on the big size) , you will have to find a paper company that uses slitters that cutter the paper from the roll , possilbly a binding company may be able to help ,

    Say Hello to my friends in Nieville
  9. Tocov

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    @HogWild : Thanks for the butcher paper tip! :rofl
  10. Bill the Bong

    Bill the Bong Supern00ba

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    The 690 works the same way. Just make sure the magnet is not in the same plane as the rotor bolt. I epoxied the magnet in a recess in the hub. Work perfectly.
  11. sidewayz_control

    sidewayz_control Been here awhile

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    KTM isn't doing things differently, it's ICO that is different. Every other odo I have worked with is like the KTM which is pretty much standard. Your cars ABS works that way as well as the crank and cam sensors. Not an expert but I think that the ICO uses a "passive" system where it looks for a magnetic field (2 wire sensor) to whereas the OEM speed sensors have the magnet and sensor integrated in one but requires extra voltage input (3 wire sensor). The bolt heads vary the magnetic field which varies the voltage (signal) in the sensor and that gives you the pulse.

    The benefit of having the 2 wire sensor, I think would be the fact that it's one thing less that has to be powered by the internal battery if you're main power to the ICO is cut-off.

    Cheers
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  12. DaveRMS

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    The ICO setup is the same as the KTM OEM setup on their speedos on their DIRT bikes and RALLY bikes, and has been the same on ICO's since 1980-something and on KTM's since at least the early 90's. Most other aftermarket speedo & rally computers are also the same style setup. Only the newer ABS/adventure bike stuff is different.

    Just clearing that up, for whatever little value that is ;-)

    Dave (owner of ICO Racing)
  13. GezwindeSpoed

    GezwindeSpoed Long timer

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    For my 950 SE I drilled a little hole in one of the brake disk pole(?). And use the hole in the caliper (which is already there) for the sensor.
    [​IMG]
  14. alongat

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    Agreed Dave except for one exception: it's not just the abs bikes that are different than other KTMs, it's all the 950/990 bikes as my 950SE is not abs-equipped. For the big bikes, KTM did it differently than all the other / smaller KTMs and that's what I was trying to say as well. On my 530, this is a no brainer with any of the ICO, etc - on the 950, the placement of the magnet is critical to avoid interference with the sensor.
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  15. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    And you found that location for the magnet to be far enough away from the stock sensor to avoid interference to the stock speedo?
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    GezwindeSpoed Long timer

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    Yes, no problem, same as on a 690.
  17. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    Thumbs up!!! Thank you
  18. sidewayz_control

    sidewayz_control Been here awhile

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    690s are also like that ABS or not. But regardless, like Dave RMS said, for whatever little value that brings.

    This is proper :thumbup
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  19. nastyroxinc

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    Hi all. Slightly off-topic questions, but I'm just about to start a rally-lite build on my 2014 EXC 350 Six Days in preparation for the Serres Rally later this year. The first (of many) questions are: what gauge wire should I use for the 12v and ground? Also, how do people tend to connect all the ground wiring together? I've a fuse box for the live, but obviiulsy am gonna have the same grouping issue for the return feed...
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    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    What are you powering with these wires? Give me a list of the devices and we can figure it out based on the total current draw.