05.5 950A questions, mostly suspension related..

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  1. dieselcruiserhead

    dieselcruiserhead Long timer

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    Hi guys,

    I'm considering buying a 05.5 (basically an '06, I believe) 950. It's in great shape and is setup exactly how I want it with the exception that I'm tall at 6'5 with longer legs and I'll be using the Adventure pretty heavily off road and aggressively so I would like it to have deeper legs and higher clearance. My other bike is a KTM 520 that I take through hell and back, so the idea is seeing how well the 950 can perform as well. My fellow Utard friends call them BADB's, "big ass dirt bike," including the 950 adventures, so I can believe it I suppose...

    Q1: Are the regular adventure suspensions in demand and do you often find people that want to switch from those who have S models? It seems like the logic for lowering the suspension for the '06 models was for better all around handling, correct? For those of us leaning more towards off road, does it seem like people would be willing to trade?

    Q2: is the swap the best method, or would it be easier/cheaper to send off to have those extra legs put in?

    Q3: like anyone else I'll be riding it on the roads. Does the extra legs of the early models make it handle much worse?

    Q4: Because I weigh probably 230 or so, do I need to change out the front springs? Seems like the rear springs are OK. If so, what weight rating... I can change these out easily and don't mind...

    Q5: I think they are all 48mm forks. Does it make any sense to switch to a fork out of a 530 or something like that? Mostly just wondering...

    Q6: I may have an extra set of triple clamps and steering dampener off a 525. Would these offer any benefit/usable for the 950?


    Q7: Anything else I may want to know for a '05.5 / 06, please let me know. I'm all ears, especailly on technical riding. I'd also love a 690E but not going to happen in the configuration and cost I'm looking at. So 950 Adventure it is, and this will work well, and will be nicer for the roads...

    thanks!
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  2. brents347

    brents347 Trusting my Cape...

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    1. Alot of people do swaps, but the S model ones are the ones in demand. What killes me is when you see guys with S models have them lowered.

    2. In my opinion, a swap is great but will still need to be revslved and sprung for your weight and riding. Better off just sending out the forks and shock and having them built.

    3. I can't really tell the difference too much on road between my shorter bike and now but I'm sure it is a little worse.

    4. The 950/990 definately needs springs to perform well offroad, especially at your weight.

    5. The 48's can be made to perform well enough for these bikes.

    6. I've never heard of anyone doing it, so it probably isn't really possible. Too many guys around here have 950's and 520 type bikes for it not to have been tried before.
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  3. TheMuffinMan

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    The 'S' suspensions are in demand so it'll be are to find someone who wants to swap.

    My vote is sending it in and having it raised. I really liked the service from James at Superplush Suspensions. He fixed a raising job some other suspension shop botched from the original owner of my bike. He also re-springed and re-valved my shock and forks for my weight. It wasn't cheap, but it was done right and I'm very impressed with his service.

    As far as other info (your question #7) I'd say:

    1. Replace the waterpump seal, shaft, and bearings. I recommend CJ Designs' hardened water pump shaft kit.

    2. Get Dr. Bean's fuel pump kit, replaces mechanical points (wear item) with a solid state solution. PM Dr. Bean (he's an adv'er)

    3. Clean the clutch oil jet, I do it once a month or before a gnarly off-road day. This makes sure my clutch gets oil and doesn't acceleration wear.

    4. Consider CJ Designs' clutch reservoiur cooler/extension makes bleeding the clutch much easier (stock has barely enough for one or two pumps) and is said to keep the fluid cooler.

    5. Replace the clutch slave, I bought the newer revised OEM one as I've had clutch slipping issues with the Evo Slave that came on my bike.

    6. Flush the clutch fluid. Mine had some black silty stuff in it; I figure that isn't good for anything.

    7. Get a side stand relocation kit!! (probably the most important of all of these items). I have a BDCW one (Black Dog Cycle Works)

    Beyond that everything is just preference. You certainly don't have to do any of the things I listed above, but I'm big on preventative maintenance.
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  4. dlrides

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    I'm same weight, 1/2 inch taller. You need 265mm-285mm suspension. You might find a 265mm "S" or "R" owner willing to swap, if so, swap all components (side stand, center stand, brake lines, etc). Use the .52 or .54 front springs. If a swap can't be found, it will cost $800-$1000 for longer suspension and springs. Re-valve would be extra, but that would be an individual riding ability, terrain, riding style choice.

    A taller seat would benefit your comfort more than anything you can do ! I would suggest a build up of 2 1/2 inches. Basically remove the "dip" or "pocket" area. The seat to peg height will be perfect. Don't forget some bar risers.Hope this helps.

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  5. dieselcruiserhead

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    thanks for all of the tips, this is great and gives me a good idea of what I'll get into. 285mm sounds awesome.. :)

    What will that run with a respring? I can rebuild forks at least myself, and may be able to figure out shocks. Any way I could save some $$ there?

    thx
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  6. dieselcruiserhead

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    Also, 285mm is 11". Pretty close to what forks out of a 530 EXC would be if I could find some, by the way.. And just respring myself...
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  7. brents347

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    The respring is only half the deal. The forks on these bikes really need a revalve as well as does the shock for any hard off-roading. There is more than one place to getr this done, but use James at Superplush or someone like him who knows this suspension inside and out and you'll get it right the first time.
    The stock rear spring is stiff, so most of the time when a bike is raised to longer suspension and for a heavier guy like you or me a bushing is put on the stock shock spring to take up the spring length slack. This combined with a revalve made my bike quite nice to ride hard offroad.
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  8. azcagiva

    azcagiva new orange flavor

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    I have the 05.5 s that superplush raised to the 04 s height. I love it. If you do aggressive off-road I would highly recommend having superplush raise the bike.

    -John
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  9. dieselcruiserhead

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    OK, I think that will be the plan. Can they go up to 300mm you think?
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  10. dieselcruiserhead

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    went and test rode it. They wouldn't budget from $6500 and its an '05 not an 05.5 Still sat pretty tall and man did it ride well of course.. Hard to move around on and off the stand, things like that, but very maneuverable once moving around...
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  11. Sumi

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    Don't move it around the sidestand (using the sidestand as a lift) until you have relocated it, because it will probably crack the engine case.
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  12. dlrides

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    Walk away
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  13. dieselcruiserhead

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    thanks... It really is clean and is lower miles, which is what has me still considering it. It really just needs a good cleaning and some other minimal things and it would be a great builder. But perhaps I should be just patient. The issue is spring is coming and things already seem to be heating up in terms of prices. But I should just be patient and perhaps wait until the fall or winter again, regardless, when things start slowing down. Or, if someone has a '05.5 or later and/or something where most of the work has been done and it's sprung upwards, definitely feel free to shoot me a message direct. I would be happy to travel anywhere in the Western US (we're lucky in Salt Lake City where we're 1 day's drive from every city in the West).

    Also I've started building my 520 into a pretty scalable bike that travels even highway speeds reasonably well. It is still a light dirt bike but when I finally get a slightly better seat that will basically complete it and it would be able to hang with a 640 or 690E in most situations other than slightly poorer in wind. So I'm now starting to think the built 950 would compliment it well and the 690E would cross over too much into the area of the 520...

    thanks
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  14. wachs

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    Got the exact same situation but found an '06 S model and I'm only 6' tall. Yes, there's a HUGE difference between the S and standard and it's worth searching one out. My '07 525 has a ton of long-distance hours on it and has been retired to local single track and weekend rides.

    Was seriously considering the 690 but found an XR650R with license plate for $1700. :clap It is the poor man's 690 for sure! :lol3 Don't mind kicking it one bit as it always starts and is rock solid . . . oh yeah it hauls ass too!


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  15. dieselcruiserhead

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    awesome... (and awesome pic)..

    thx!
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  16. dieselcruiserhead

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    Here's my old XR650R.. Definitely a poor man's 690E for sure... Zoom zoom! Kick and some other things did bother me enough though....

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  17. wachs

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    maybe it wanted more gas :lol3










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  18. Trailtwister

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    I do like the ADV-Tall size. Good for dirt, yet completely capable of day-after-day of highway riding. It'll haul your big lanky ass plus 100 pounds, from 5 to 105 mph, if the trail's wide enough...

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  19. sanjoh

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    How do you determine its a 2005.5?

    I have a vin, last 6 digits are a sequential number, is there a serial number cut off or something?

    Thanks
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  20. dieselcruiserhead

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    Curious about this myself. This one is made 01/05 but it appears to have all the characteristics of a '05.5...

    thx
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