1190 Standard or R? Anybody driven both???

Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much HP' started by TakSD, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. Toors

    Toors Been here awhile

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    I have an 1190 R - have been riding it for almost 9 months now and my opinion after living with it is that is one hell of a bike. Easy comfortable commuter, exciting - if you want to do crazy speeds it can. Handling surprisingly good on road) and very capable offroad - it handles single track, dirt roads etc very well. (I upgraded the suspension with progressive springs to be better in the rough stuff and went 3 teeth larger on the rear sprocket to be more suitable for tech).

    Yes it is heavy and not as good offroad as a 950SE/990R but I think the R is better than the standard 990/GS (any other new big duel sport bike for that matter - if the 1190R can not take you were you want to go you probably need a 690 in any event).

    The limitation on this bike is the rider.

    it is extremely easy to ride and the offroad electronics (ABS and Traction control works really well - you can still drift the bike and slide the rear with a safety net - yes if you are a Dakar god you'll switch it off, but for the most it works really well...

    Some negative off course - fuel filter - front rim to soft etc.

    Probably the best all-round bike that I have ever ridden.
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  2. XB12Xforfun

    XB12Xforfun It can be fixed!

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    I have ridden both. Did not buy the R. Most of my riding is on pavement. I have never been an "off road" guy. The R felt like a huge dirt bike and that is not what I like. You have to be honest with yourself as to what kind of riding you will do MOST of the time. I ride miles of pavement before I get to a few dirt roads. The standard will do off road too, just not as fast. Both bikes will do more than I am capable of for sure. I'm sure that 21 front tire is better than the 19 in off road but I won't see that where I ride. I bought the standard with intentions to use that torque and speed on the pavement, the only place that I feel comfortable using that much power.
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  3. jameslawson

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    Well i'm lucky enough to have the best of both after a year with an '11 990R I tried an 1190 (less than 1500 dry miles) and was immediately sold. My 1190 is fully loaded with elec. suspension traction control and lean sensitive ABS.

    Definitely two totally different animals but both bags of fun in different ways :evil

    The 990R will now be exclusively for off road and the 1190 Standard (Bought in R colours, previous owner preferred the R White & Black graphics) will now be my touring bike that has off road abilities if needed and of course matching big brother and stable mate to the 990R :D

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  4. rowesrelics

    rowesrelics Dusty-Dog

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    The "R" and you will be happy. It handles great on the pavement with the street tires that come on it. And then you can buy knobs for off-road if you want to get off the beaten path.
    Less electronics to go wrong with the "R" as well.
    I have road both and the standard is a super sweet bike, I just prefer the "R" because I ride off road most of the time.
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  5. scudrunner82

    scudrunner82 combustion addict

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    I test rode the Std. model for a good hour before I decided to pull the trigger on the "R" model. As everyone says both bikes kick ass. You just have to decide where your focus will be.
    Personally I think the R model goes down the road with less effort and makes a better touring bike. The Std is so sharp and precise it feels almost "sport-bikey". I like that the R has wider, more comfy bars, a less turbulent windscreen(for me@ 6 feet tall), and of course the bigger wheels, that turn-in a bit slower than the Std.
    I plan to off-road a fair amount so I like that it feels more like a big dirt bike than the Std.
    I also prefer having traditional clickers on the suspension vs. electronic, although it was cool to mess around with while riding.
    Buy the one your heart tells you to. :clap
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  6. doohan

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  7. pinglow

    pinglow Adventurer wannabe!

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    It's the Rider not the bike...
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/JWIZfYQhgMc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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  8. TakSD

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    Totally agree! I bet he could do much of the same with a yamaha tmax!!! :rofl
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  9. okeanis1234

    okeanis1234 Been here awhile

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  10. VonBiker

    VonBiker Work sucks and then you RIDE!

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    That video is intense.
    I really wanted to test ride an R but none to be had around here.
    My inseam is 32" so I figured it would be a little tall for me so I am going with the Std. Put down a deposit 3 weeks ago and waiting for it to come in.
    Too excited to sleep. All I can do is live vicariously through this forum....
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  11. Black Hills

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    The reason I went with the R is the longer suspension travel. it is a heavy bike and off road you need all he suspension you can get if you want to carry any speed at all. It work amazingly well on the road and I have no complaints. then again I was happy with my 990R as well. AS stated the bike does not make the rider. I have whipped up on sportbikes in the twisties with the 990 I have also gotten my ass kicked on my CBR by a 70 year old on a CB750F. get the one that suits your needs best and enjoy.
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  12. TheIglu

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    Yikes. I was hoping for a lot more than that from the video going in. They all rode crossed up, leaning over the centerline, bad sight lines and looked to be on the limits of their skills. Fast has different definitions to different people I suppose. One skilled guy on a clapped out SV or well setup DL650 could of tuned the whole lot of them up with ease in a safer fashion.

    I'd love to see a skilled rider on an R on the street or on a trackday.

    I'm torn between the two as well. I live in the woods, I have 4 miles of rough dirt in any direction, and miles upon miles of even rougher pavement in any direction before I have a chance to get to any smooth road. But, primarily I do my enjoyment riding ON pavement. Hard to decide between the two, wish I could get the R model with a 19" front for better street rubber choices..... Damn you KTM! Just give us the option for wheel sizes!
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  13. Black Hills

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    buy a set of wheels, problem solved..
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  14. TheIglu

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    From many many hours reading, you can't switch the wheel size in the software.....yet. And that's the real issue. With so many sensors and the importance of having accurate wheel speed in relation to ABS and TC, they need to calibrate wheel size to make things happy.
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  15. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto

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    FWIW the STD is pretty capable off pavement and handles like a dream on pavement.
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  16. Black Hills

    Black Hills Long timer

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    the tech at my dealer says it is no problem? you can't adjust by mm (to fix speedo error) but he says you can adjust to other wheel sizes?
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  17. Black Hills

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    my dealer says you can? he says you can't change it by mm (to solve speedo error) but you can switch to different wheel sizes?
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  18. RobZorba

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    1190 Adventure R Track Day in Sweden. Author: ADVMAN.SE Click picture below to play the video ...

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