1200 Adv winglets on 12GS

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by mrmaico, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. mattmor

    mattmor Been here awhile

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    It seems pretty self explanitory how to mount them. But how is everyone positioning them on the fender. Are you lining up the inside edge or outside? Hope you can explain a little.

    Also what did you do for install. Use a really small drill bit and move up? Or just one shot? I don't wanna crack the panel or anything. Did you tape the panel first?

    Matt
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  2. jpalamar

    jpalamar Long timer

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    My only thought for using the wellnut is so that the mount is a bit 'softer'. I'm nut a great fan of them but BMW does use them quite a bit on their cycles. Hopefully, using a wellnut would dramatically lessen the probability (I think) of a hard bang into the winglet and cracking the tupperware. The wellnut, appropriately torqued/tightened could preclude that. But then again, what would have been perhaps a 4-5 mm hole, the wellnut is a lot bigger. Probably take my chances without the wellnut.

    Thanks
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  3. rideLD

    rideLD The further the better!

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    Just slap them on and see where they look good and dont interfere with the motion of the windscreen adjustment. Keep in mind the further they hang off towards the outside of the bike, the more good they will do. There is a stamp under the fairing where the accessory socket hole would be if you don't have one. Make sure the cutout lines up with the stamp. Its really very easy. Measure twice, drill once.


    For drilling I always use a stepped drill bit when drilling plastic. They work best. :nod

    BTW, I used the BMW tab nuts just like the ones in the picture of the adventure. :nod
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  4. Jeff49783

    Jeff49783 Private ASEL

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    I ran a small pilot hole first, after measuring twice, of course.
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  5. Julio_Babucha

    Julio_Babucha Happy to ride my GS

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    Just great:clap

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    2.200 kms thru Spain in one week, and les noise, less wind, less stress, and a bit more heat....

    :beer from South of Europe...
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  6. Schwarz Baron

    Schwarz Baron Mitglied mir, Nicht mir

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    Hate to rain on your parade guys, but there is a minor piece of frame work, welded to the ADV frame,I guess its there for a good reason, ie, flexing...just be careful, some guys at home here are having problems with the screen flexing and cracking around the upper mounts on the sub frame, so anythings possible. I have attached a small pic of my underside of the beak to let you see..

    just be careful..

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  7. GB

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    I think if you go back a few pages on this thread, you will see what some have done to adapt the winglets to the GS without the reinforcement tab and to compensate for the lack of support from the frame side.

    Has anyone's winglet mounts cracked due to wind pressure on a GS? :ear
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  8. mrmaico

    mrmaico Long timer

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    No problems with mine, but to be honest, since I installed them I haven't ridden in any really heavy duty winds that I can recall.

    Barry
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  9. rick danger

    rick danger Off the wagon

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    Bradpoint bits work good
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  10. Schwarz Baron

    Schwarz Baron Mitglied mir, Nicht mir

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    I did read the whole lot, just thought it was worth mentioning, and giving a word of caution....
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  11. rick danger

    rick danger Off the wagon

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    If you get some 1/8" lexan (polycarbonate) you can cold bend it. I made a windshield that way
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  12. rick danger

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    What if you bent up a piece of fairly thick sheet metal to the shape of the fender and epoxied it to the underside with quicksteel,it would distribute the stresses. Have it go down the side of the fender as well as the top edge. If you scuff up the metal and the fender the epoxy sticks good
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  13. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    I think that even if you didn't glue it, it would help distribute forces.
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  14. Artboy57

    Artboy57 Slave to THE MOUSE

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    You guys are the best Guinea Pigs ever! You know no fear. I salute you! I'll be ordering these goodies soon.(Although it's been over 100 degrees here in too-sunny Calif. , so Mr. Buffeting is almost my friend) I can't believe BMW makes ANY accessory for under a hundred bucks, amazing. Maybe they felt guilty.:lol3 Keep bolting stuff on and telling us about it!

    Cheers!

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  15. durtrider

    durtrider adventure sow

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    well shit. I measured twice and still drilled the damn thing wrong on one side. I was in to big of hurry I guess. After I marked where the holes go I used the tip of a knife blade and twisted back and forth just a touch in the center of the mark to "scribe" the hole. After drilling the first one, I started on the second hole where a little piece of drilling was...I thought it was the scribe. Now I have a durn hole where there should be no hole. @$%&*!! Guess I'll stick a rubber plug in there....or mabey a fookin flower stem or sumthin...
    now as far as the the function goes...I like it! I rode 200 miles in wind and no wind, both directions, and could tell a big difference. I left late in the afternoon without a clear visor and didn't get back untill after dark, so I rode with my tinted visor up. Never once did it blow down.
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  16. rick danger

    rick danger Off the wagon

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    Is the hole thats in the wrong place under the winglet? Paint the bottom of the winglet black where it touches the fender/beak
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  17. durtrider

    durtrider adventure sow

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    No, it's the top hole about halfway down into the cutout. I think I can fix it by putting another power socket in. I may have to flange it with a wide rubber gasket. I'm just irritated at myself for doing somethilng so stupid! It's not that big of deal... it will go along with the other dents and dings and "character flaws"!!:lol3
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  18. mrmaico

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    Actually, IMO I don't think it's going to make much difference in the amount of flex at the winglets. That whole section of the fairing is just flimsy so unless you came up with a way to maybe attach that fairing piece to the gas tank fairing piece it isn't going to do much, if any, good. Just try flexing that piece on your bike and you'll see what I mean. I'm pretty confident that it's going to be just fine as is. There is no noticeable deflection of the winglets at any speeds I have ridden so far (100mph briefly last evening).

    Having said that, I still may play around with it this winter to see what I can come up with. :D Maybe even just shlep some epoxy on the whole underside (not the nuts though, don't want no epoxy on my nuts!:lol3) just to add some strength. A person has to have something to do during our long winters.

    Barry
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  19. Schtum

    Schtum Free Genie

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    At the risk of telling you what you should have done after the event....

    What you should have done was to cover the surfaces on which you were going to mount the winglets with masking tape > place each winglet in the desired location > mark through the mounting holes in the winglets with a pen onto the masking tape > drill small pilot hole through the masking tape > remove masking tape and drill correct size hole in the pilot hole > result :D
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  20. Tslepebull

    Tslepebull Snakecharmer

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    Well I finally got the wingletts and installation hardware from Chicago. Since there were no instructions I reviewed the posts on the list and took a stab at installation. It was relatively easy (except for the part where your hand needs eyes so it can see under the bodywork). Anyway with the install done I put on my helmet for a test ride.

    With my Nolan and no earplugs it was noticably more quiet. Maybe not $60 more quiet but some. Since I usually wear ear plugs I stopped and put them in. Well -- it really is more quiet, substantially more quiet, and the wash from trucks ahead doesn't hit my shoulders anymore. So by then I decided this really was a good idea. Then I moved my windscreen (GIVI) up one more notch. At that point things got quiet, REAL FREAKIN QUIET.

    I have to give you guys credit this may be the best $45 I have ever spent on a recommendation from the forum.