1200 Adv winglets on 12GS

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by mrmaico, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. MarcParnes

    MarcParnes Tinkerer

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    Just to add to the raves, I've been running an Adventure screen on my '05 R12GS for a while now and considered selling it based on the amount of buffeting I was getting. I installed the winglets on my '07 and rode it 950 miles yesterday. The buffeting is 100% gone! I can't believe it. I guess they designed the Adventure screen and winglets as a package. The screen alone stinks, together they're the best I've ever experienced on a GS.
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    Nippy Normans products are always top notch.. so I'm sure these look pretty effective... anyone use them? :ear
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  5. mrmaico

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    Good question. It looks like they are about the same length but about an inch wider. I guess you could look at that two ways....they're wider and may work even better or they're wider and might be more vulnerable to getting hit by something and causing damage and since they're wider they're catching more air and exerting more force on the unsupported fairing possibly doing damage. Personally, I wouldn't worry about the small bit of added force since I don't notice any flexing of the fairing with the BMW winglets.

    I had no idea when I first started this thread how much interest it would generate even though Willi-P actually tried it and posted before I did. I notice alot of people posting pics of they're GS's around the web with winglets on them lately. It's nice to know I was able to contribute something useful on this forum considering how much I've learned from spending (too much) time here.

    Barry
  6. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    He ships to the US and Canada by registered mail. Super fast service too and his prices on his site include the VAT (sales tax), so the price to the US will be less than the posted price on his site. Excellent service too.
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    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    Thanks, man. Glad to know it!

    Like I didn't have enough ways to spend money already... :cry
  9. cowan

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    In fact his stuff reaches me on the East Coast about a week faster than A&S, Santa Cruz or Sierra BMW!

    I was about to order then noticed the images show the left side mount. I just e-mailed them to make sure the cut out clears the right sided accessory plug, or if not how much trimming needs to be done.
  10. LexDM3

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    My '05 R1200GS got hit from behind in June with me on it. Car totaled, bike totaled, yours truly beaten up but saved by all the gear.

    I loved everything about my R12GS but the dumb windscreen. After reading every post here and elsewhere, I experimented with a Givi screen, a Laminar Lip, and Tobinators. Better but not good enough for a 6'2" guy with ringing ears and sensitivity to turbulence. After my GS went on to its next life, I rode an R12GS with the Aeroflow screen and that's the first thing that seemed to work for me. I can live with dead air, I can't live with turbulence.

    I think I'm getting another R12GS (Do you know of a blue one for sale in the northeast US?) but I really want to get the screen thing right.

    So whaddya think - Will the combo of the Adventure winglets and a Givi screen do it for me or will I need to pop $450+ for the Aeroflow?

    Thanks. --Dan
  11. DangerMoney

    DangerMoney Loud Helmets Save Lives

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    Dan,
    Just another data point. I put a Cee Bailey's +4 taller & +2 wider on my 12GS and about 80% of the turbulence went away. I rode a stock 12GS Adv yesterday and I didn't notice any. I've got GSA winglets on order.
  12. David_Moen

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    Bill,

    I'll be interested how the CB windsheild works with the winglets. I have the same screen. I bought the bike with the CB and the stock screen - put the stock one on to give it a try, it lasted a week! How did BMW ever come up with a windscreen that bad?
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    David,
    I ordered the winglets last week from Chicago BMW so I figure they're about 10 days away. Will advise upon installation & testing.

    BTW: I found the airflow much smoother (and quieter) with the CB in the lowest postion (tilted towards the rider as far as it will go) since it promotes a laminar flow. I put it in the highest position and a noticeable amount of turbulence came back.
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  14. David_Moen

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    That's the way I ride with mine. One notch up results in a quieter ride for me with a large increase in turbulence for the passenger. Since I can't get out of the driveway without my wife or one of the kids jumping on the back, passenger comfort is a consideration.
  15. Chumley

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    I also have a +4" and +2". I had to cut off the corners of the windscreen at the bottom to provide necessary clearance. Took about 1" off, you'll know what I'm talking about when you dry fit the winglets.

    Not a big deal, just get the Dremel out (or jig saw if you're so inclined) and afterwards took my palm sander to it to give the the nice clean edges. Used a very fine sand paper to round the cut edges to look like factory and then took Novus 3 and 2 to it so now it looks like factory. I've modified 3 to 4 windscreens (remember the trick of removing the lip to reduce buffeting on the old R100RS screen?) and the key thing is to protect the nice polished windscreen - it is so easy to scratch and you'll never suspect what will do the damage (this is experience talking here:cry ).

    Done deal, nice fit and looks like it was meant to be that way.:1drink
  16. mrmaico

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    I just took some pics for a friend installing a Givi and winglets to help in positioning them and thought I'd post it here for anyone doing this for a winter project.

    As you can see the winglets end up pretty close to the screen but in the last shot of the bike you can see the screen angle is fairly erect, I don't really see any reason you'd want to go any higher than that with the screen and if you did I guess you could always trim the edge of the screen a bit. You really don't want to go any more to the rear with the winglets otherwise you will have a problem with mounting a front accessory socket if you ever want to add one.

    http://mrmaico.smugmug.com/gallery/2200268

    Barry
  17. TheDuke

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    Great pics, thanks. :thumbup
  18. GELSTRA

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    Hey, Barry, great shots of the best color!:evil I actually had to lower my Givi just to get more are on me because the winglets create such a still air place. Now I get really clean air flow. Putting it up tto straight I think might cause a bit of turbulence.
  19. gregbenner

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    I may have missed this, but has anyone tried these with a Cee Bailey windshield?

    thx, greg
  20. DangerMoney

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    Yup. I've got a CB+4+2. Note the position of the screen in these shots. If you want to run the screen in the more upright positions you have to trim the screen. Mine is not.

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