1200 Adv winglets on 12GS

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by mrmaico, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. rick danger

    rick danger Off the wagon

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    Yeah for sure on the cee baily trim thing. I have a 6+ in the allthe way up pos and had to cut a big piece of the corner:deal
  2. longdog uk

    longdog uk Been here awhile

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    It looks as though these winglets are a pretty good solution. Has anyone tried them on a R1150GS? If so, then what did you use and where did you get them from? :freaky
  3. PaulyMan

    PaulyMan Been here awhile

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    Has anybody tried the other two wings; Cee Bailey or Nippy Normans?
  4. markgsnw

    markgsnw WTF?

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    I just installed the winglets on my 1150GS. So far I'm not impressed. I can't really tell any difference at speeds up to 60 mph. They also look like they don't belong on the bike.
  5. DirtMerchant

    DirtMerchant Long timer

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    Has anyone tried the Wingletts with the ZTechnik standard windshield? According to their website it is:

    [​IMG][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Z2242 H: 16.00" (40.6cm) W: 16.00" (40.6cm) at top; 18.00" (45.7cm) at bottom
    Stock H: 14.38" (36.5cm) W: 12.00" (30.5cm)
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    I have this shield and it is an improvement over stock but not sure how it will work with the wings.

    Rodney
  6. fixinbones

    fixinbones Tarmac Adventurer

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    \i have the Z technik screen. \i have not tried the winglets but the lower portion of the screen is very similar to the stock screen so \i think it should work.
  7. old dog

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    I put a set of the winglets on my wife's 650GS and she says what a great difference.
  8. Giuseppe

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    I've got the standard (not the fancy-boy adjustable) Z-Technik windscreen and the BMW winglets installed in the OEM position. It's a definite improvement over the stock setup. I had the Z-T screen for a year or so before adding the winglets. The screen alone only worked well in the most rearward (flattest) position. Any higher and the buffeting came back. Since adding the winglets, I've noticed less buffeting and turbulence. However, there is more perceived noise around my helmet. If I duck down a couple of inches, my head gets into a nice quiet zone. This makes me think that my next purchase will be the Givi, for its extra height. I still keep the Z-T screen in the most rearward position, as there's more noise and turbulence as I raise it up. FWIW, I'm 5'9" w/a 30" inseam. I've got the 12GS w/a BMW low seat and I wear a Shoei RF-1000 helmet. Hope this helps. If the Givi works out, I'll probably have a Z-T screen for sale. PMs welcome...
  9. mreich77

    mreich77 GUNIVY

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    This might be stating the obvious, but for those who are unsure of whether the benefits of installing the winglets will be worth drilling holes in your plastic, why not take a test run with the winglets held in place with c-clamps...or something similar? Another thought...I've read a few posts about some riders cutting the windshield where it could interfere with the winglets. Why not cut the lesser expensive winglets instead of the more costly w/s? Just a thought. I have a Cee Baily's w/s and keep it in the most upright position, which by the looks of it will interfere at the lower corners with the winglets I want to install. I cut about a 1/2 inch corner (inside upper) off each winglet and it looks like it will do the trick. I'll take a test ride tonight with the winglets clamped down before I decide the drill. Hope it works out!

    If these questions have been raised in prior posts...my bad!
  10. Giuseppe

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  11. DirtMerchant

    DirtMerchant Long timer

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    Giuseppe,

    Thanks for the input, that's the same shield I was asking about. I'm a little 5'11" with 32" inseam, i'm using the standard seat set with front high and rear low using a Nolan flip lid. My experiance is similar as your's relative to buffeting and noise. I think I may give these a shot, worse is tht I end up with some extra holes....

    rodney
  12. Giuseppe

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    Yeah, the winglets are a cheap experiment. Give `em a try. If you're using the stock screen, it couldn't possibly get any worse! :wink:
  13. markgsnw

    markgsnw WTF?

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    I doubt that a clamp would hold them in place. I was more willing to risk two holes in each side of the beak than I was having $$ in plastic disappear at high speed :1drink
  14. TonyA

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    I thought it was a good fit when I installed mine. First, remove the rear mounting tabs, cutting along the molded ridge of the winglets so they'll clear the fairing ...

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    ... attach it to the bike at the fairing and the aft Tobinator mounting point ...

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    ... using some brackets you make yourself (with a little help from Ace Hardware):

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    (edit) Not only does it look close to an OEM solution, it actually works. The optimum tilt angle for the windscreen has now shifted a little bit back. The air flow coming off the sides of the screen is less turbulent and stays clean for a longer distance. There are some pretty strong jets of air coming up over the brake and clutch master cylinders, then dead air below that, then more strong jets coming off the bottom of the winglets. It directs more air at my knees which we'll have to see is a good thing or not. It's a LOT quieter when I tuck down behind the screen - that's the biggest change.

    With the screen tilted down more my helmet is getting a slightly stronger but more laminar flow. It's noticeably quieter, not quite there but closer to the clean air you get when you stand up. My shoulders are still getting strong air flow because the winglets direct some air up and some down.

    If I tilt the screen more vertical the buffeting comes back.

    Overall it's a modest improvement. More important changes came when I ditched the OEM screen and added Tobinators. But I'd do it again, no regrets.
  15. markgsnw

    markgsnw WTF?

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    well, aren't you a clever boy. I just took mine off with the intention of selling them, but I'll have a go at what you did. I can see that mounting them farther forward could help a lot. :wink:
  16. TonyA

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    My pics don't show it, but you'll also need to take off about 1 cm at the inside upper corners to clear the instrument housing. Quick sculpting with a Dremel.

    I didn't take any pix of the first thing I tried: cutting deeply into the front half of the winglet to allow me to place the two mounting lugs flat onto the horizontal part of the fairing. 'Twas fugly.
  17. Giuseppe

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    1) The 12GS makes some major strange noises.
    2) My helmet stinks! :lol3

    After riding with the Z-Technik screen and winglets for a few months (which was OK, but windy and loud), I finally sprung for the Givi. Man, what a difference! Even in the lowest two positions, there's very little turbulent air coming around the screen. Not much air at all, actually. If you want some protection from the elemets and cleaner air around your helmet, this is the way to go. :clap
  18. ben.thomas

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    Yep, I notice the strange noises as soon as I fitted my Aeroflow screen. It was a bit disconcerting for the first few hundred kms, but now I have gotten use to it.
  19. mrmaico

    mrmaico Long timer

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    Interesting. Before I installed my winglets I had the Givi screen and wasn't that impressed with it, certainly not as impressed as some other people here had been at least. When I installed the winglets though it was a night and day difference. I had always assumed it was the winglets more than anything that made the big difference but I guess it's a COMBINATION of the two that makes it so nice.

    Thanks for the info....Barry
  20. Schtum

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    Synergy you know....:wink: However, since I'm currently running the stock screen with a Laminar Lip and the winglets and am just about to fit a ZTechnik screen which I was given as a gift, I'm not entirely happy with what I've just read....:ear