1200 Adv winglets on 12GS

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by mrmaico, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. Giuseppe

    Giuseppe Medium-Viz

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    Give the Z-T a try. I'm 5'9" w/a 30" inseam and the BMW low seat. If you're a little differently set up, it might be just the ticket. The Z-T and winglets were a huge improvement over stock, just a little rougher than I would have preferred.

    Although the calmness behind the Givi is nice in the 40 degree weather now. It makes me wonder if I'll get enough wind in the summer. I guess there's no pleasing some people... :rofl Maybe I'll hold onto the Z-T, just in case!
  2. Schtum

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    Nope, we could swap bikes and not notice the difference.....
  3. Giuseppe

    Giuseppe Medium-Viz

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    Here are a couple of pix of the Z-T and winglets:

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  4. Giuseppe

    Giuseppe Medium-Viz

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    And the Givi and winglets:

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    The difference in size isn't huge (wider and slightly taller), but the effect on wind and turbulence is. Not all of the adjustment positions on the screen are usable, because the tips of the screen run into the the winglets. As has been noted elsewhere, this can be remedied by some judicious filing. At 5'9", I don't have any problem seeing over the Givi.
  5. PackRat

    PackRat Huey Guns

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    This is what I made out of black 3/16" lexan. This was the final fitting before I polished the edges and painted the screws black.

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  6. Box6

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    Where can I buy a set of Winglets for an 1150GS with stock screen?
  7. Hooksta

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    Almost a year later I finally get off my tail to go and buy the winglets. Picked them up this evening and got all the part numbers listed back on page 4 (I think). BUT, I noticed there was no part number for the nuts. I have 4 screws, 4 bushings, and 4 washers...and that's it. Is there a particular type of nut I should be looking for...or just one that fits. Seems like I heard the BMW dealer mention an M5 as a part order. I only remember it because it was the same as BMW auto.

    I run a Givi screen for what its worth. I do agree that the installation area/fairing is pretty flimsey. So no one has had any cracks or trouble? (My primary reason for not being an early adopter).

    Also, has anyone had success with using "clamps" to hold the winglets in place?

    Thanks!

    Eddie
  8. mrmaico

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    I was just thinking about that on a ride the other day....I wonder if anyone has had any problems after mounting them on a GS. I can say that I haven't had any problems at all. I've since installed my original set of winglets on a spare set of bodywork that I bought and had painted a different blue. I rode briefly without them when I installed the new bodywork and was instantly reminded what a difference they make for the better. The wind noise and buffeting were back.:eek1 For anyone that hasn't done it, I would still highly recommend installing them.:thumb

    As for the nuts, the reason they don't come with any is because on the GSA they screw into a captive nut on the frame. I can't recall for certain anymore but looking at the parts fiche it looks to indeed be a 5mm nut. I would look for a locking nut or you can do like I did and just double nut it. I used stainless nuts on mine. I don't recall anyone using a C clamp but I know Jim VonBaden used Dual Lock on his and said it was working great.

    Still the most bang for the buck I've done to my bike. :clap

    Barry
  9. Hooksta

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    Barry,

    Thanks for the info...good stuff. I'm still traveliing this week but I hope to do the install this weekend. Maybe there are a few "fresh - 2007" reviews to be done here but doesn't seem I am getting many takers on it.

    Paging Jim Von Baden, what is this "Dual Lock" thing/stuff?
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  11. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    No problems here.
  12. Schtum

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  13. Hooksta

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    Barry,

    I was messing around with my new winglets (will be installing them this afternoon) and it appears if I mount them approximately the same way as was done in the Yellow-painted Adventure photos, the Givi screen should retain its adjustability for all positions. So my challenge/decision is whether or not to mount them closer in or mount them a little further out. Any last suggestions from anyone?
  14. mrmaico

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    The thing I would worry about by mounting them farther out is it will possibly be putting a little more stress on the bodywork at speed. You also might be getting too much air past the inner edge of the winglet by moving them out. If I were you I'd just mount them as close to the pictures as possible.

    On mine it doesn't look like I would be able to adjust the screen all the way up without it hitting the winglets. I've never bothered to check it out because it looks like I would be looking through the screen at my height (5' 10"). I think some people have had to trim a bit off the screen to get the full range of adjustment. And besides I think it looks dorky with the screen setting straight up.:D

    Barry

    I have mine set at this angle, haven't messed with the adjustment in at least a year......

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  15. Mukluk25

    Mukluk25 Hitchhiking to Bingo

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    I was able to fit my winglets in such a way to allow an extra powerlet socket, Givi screen, and tobs. There is only one location that the screen rubs, but only during periods of high vibration. I used the powerlet socket mounting grids located on the underside of the fairing for location mounting guidance. 10K miles with them I am very happy. Good luck
  16. Hooksta

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    I went ahead and mounted them close. In other words I can only adjust my Givi screen about half way without hitting the winglets. That should be okay because I run the Givi in the lower two settings anyhow. I'll take pictures sometime pretty soon. Had a lot of projects today so I haven't had the opportunity to try them out yet.
  17. JimVonBaden

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    I mounted mine (Cee Baileys) in the stock GSA spot, and they fit for all adjustments on the GIVI screen, as well as leaving the right spot for the Powerlet plugs.

    Alass, after nearly 2K miles, a sidedraft (probably 50 mph) took one of my winglets off at speed, 85mph, and I lost it. Duel lock is good, but not perfect.

    I am ordering another set, and will still use duel lock, but I will also be finding a way to keep them on with a very small clamp, or a teather.

    I love them, and the 1000 mire ride to and from the RA reminded me why.

    Oh, and I use them with the stock screen in summer, GIVI in winter.

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    Jim :brow
  18. sonic578

    sonic578 Been here awhile

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    Jim,

    Any reason for CB over BMW, or is this a case of wings are wings? From the pic, the CB appears to be larger. True?

    I happened onto a CB screen (+3"), and find it to be an improvement over stock GS screen, but still too noisy (I'm almost 6'1"). Still tinkering with screen angle, and wanted to get the wings before investing in another (taller) screen, so appreciate the useful feedback in this thread! Thanks to all.
  19. GomezSinclair

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    Okay - I'm in! As a newer owner, I've been annoyed by the wind noise on my helmet. I installed my winglets last night. Of course, I'm totally paranoid about getting things wrong when I drilled through the plastic, so I obsessed for about an hour getting them just so.

    After seeing this picture (above) - I fear I mounted them about 1/4"-3/8" to the rear :eek1 - barely overlapping the seam of the bodywork on the back side. I still have plenty of room for the outlets - but I nearly lost sleep last night with my OCD personality, fearing that I won't get the correct slipstream characteristics.

    Someone (preferably with an aeronautical engineering degree) please give me a little reassurance that 3/8" rearward mounting won't completely screw up any benefits from these!!! On a positive note, they are perfectly symmetrical and the screen operates with just enough clearance...

    Anyone have some real-life insights? Someone want to console me?
  20. JimVonBaden

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    Mainly I did the Cee Baileys because they are cheaper. But I found out that the larger ones seem to work a bit better, and look pretty good too.

    I use them with my stock screen and find them much better than the stock screen alone, and suspect it would help the larger Cee Baileys as well. The noise from most helmets is at the bottom when turbulent air hits them. The wings smooth and reduce this areflow from below and makes even the stock screen quieter. YMMV.

    Jim :brow