1200GS Fuel Pump Flange Crack

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by davegaz, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. GS Addict

    GS Addict Pepperfool

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    If you are looking to get a replacement I'd remove the clamp just before I took it in....
  2. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Oh man. You've got that right. If my experience with dealers is any indication they'll probably document that this "repair" was done by the owner, and then every single thing that ever goes wrong with the bike, no matter how unrelated, will somehow mysteriously be "traced" back to it.
  3. AntonLargiader

    AntonLargiader Long timer

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    I would wait until you meet the replacement criteria to go in; that way you get a new part. Recalls are basically perpetual.

    Improper servicing... what a load of bull. I can't believe they would actually say that to NHTSA.
  4. WeazyBuddha

    WeazyBuddha Carbon-Based Humanoid

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    Does anyone know whether all flanges will be replaced or only those showing cracks? I had mine replaced under warranty with the unimproved OEM part and assume that it will develop cracks at some point. I'm hoping to get a letter to be able to get it replaced under warranty before it fails.
  5. JimVonBaden

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    No one really know's for sure, but I would suspect that if you have no cracks they will add the colar to the one you have. :deal
  6. Wallowa

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    In my recall letter: [nothing about pumps that are not leaking or do not have cracks...at this time..]
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    No leaks, cracks in flange small, flange diameter "has not exceeded a certain measurement"..= reinforcing ring.
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    If leaks are present, if cracks in the flange extend to bottom of flange or if the flange diameter has exceeded a certain measurement = new fuel pump
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    The flange is an integral part of the pump body/housing [I believe], you don't "replace a flange". Weazy if you had your pump replaced by BMW [OEM] then it probably will not develop these cracks...but who the hell knows.

    The 'critical flange diameter measurement' is never mentioned; what size increase warrants a new pump? 2mm? 10mm?...BMW secret:wink:...but I assume they using this to determine if cracks have opened up the flange diameter enough to fail at some point, even if the cracks have not extended to the bottom of the flange. I don't think BMW truly has a clue and they are guessing on what diameter is "too large"...

    Sorry, but this is a piss poor way to run a company...obfuscate rather than clarify and not set a date when you can get this fixed...old shell game...hey if you bike is thrashed, torch it!:D [Just teasing arson is a felony and BMW would claim you were illegally smoking while on the bike:lol3]
  7. TXjames

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    Thanks for all the recall info Wallowa but the above statement simply isn't true. If there is no metal reinforcing ring then it probably will develop cracks Weazy. Get it fixed or wish you had.
  8. WeazyBuddha

    WeazyBuddha Carbon-Based Humanoid

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    Exactly, I need to get BMW to replace it or I need to do the boneyard fix myself. I'll shoot Lonestar BMW an email with my VIN to see what they have to say.
  9. Wallowa

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    If he got a new OEM pump from BMW it would in their words be "a current production design which includes the reinforcing ring"...so....it should be good to go..
  10. JimVonBaden

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    Easy to check!

    No ring:
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    Ring:
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  11. Wallowa

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    Great photos Jim...what I don't know is will cracks develop even if the ring is on the flange?.. that information is way above my pay grade:wink:

    I guess time will tell....
  12. JimVonBaden

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    Maybe, maybe not, but even if they do, the flange should not leak!:deal
  13. koutadog

    koutadog Pilbara rider

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    No recalls in Australia.
    I did contact my local dealer, sent them the North America recall link and photos of my leaking pump from 2012. Received email back that they will replace the pump and cover costs.
    Much cheaper to replace only those that complain, not all bikes fitted with these pumps.

    Good result for me. :1drink
  14. Chat Lunatique

    Chat Lunatique aka El Gato Loco

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    Ever split wood? You know, when you put wood on end and drive a wedge thru it with a sledge hammer. This is in essence what BMW is doing driving a tapered thread into the plastic flange.

    Now imagine there is a band of steel around the wood like on a wine barrel. Try splitting it now. Ain't gonna happen!

    I think the BMW fix will work out just fine, unless the flange is already cracked and the BMW tech misses it...Don't worry.
  15. HighWay319

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    Add me to the list.....Early model 2005 r1200gs. Hopefully the dealer can find the parts, its riding season!!!

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  16. JimVonBaden

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    Hey, at least you didn't explode on your way home from DC today!:lol3

    Hopefully they will have the parts quickly!:deal
  17. clintonl

    clintonl Been here awhile

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    Finally took my bike into get this recall done and the experience reminded me why I service my own bike now

    - dropped the bike off. Service dept refuses to not only tell me if they have the parts in stock but also provide any kind of estimate of when my only mode of transportation will be available to me again.

    - Dealer said they'd call at the end of the day with status. They didn't.

    - Finally get in touch. Bike is ready to be picked up the next day.

    - Get bike without any paperwork because dealer couldn't print it out. Guy was using the printer to print a huge stack of emails.

    - At lunch I decide to take a peek at the fuel pump rings. Discover dealer has only installed the ring on the left hand pump

    - Return bike to dealer where mechanic says "oops my bad" and they install the recall ring on the right hand fuel pump. Service rep says "you've got a good eye" no apology from either.

    - Ride off now with *both* recall rings installed shaking my head.
  18. Mike Figielski

    Mike Figielski Been here awhile

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    Anyone have a pic of the warranty ring if you had one added to your existing flange? Curious how it looks compared to our aftermarket ring. Thanks!
    Mike
  19. scfrank

    scfrank Old farts riding club.

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    Just had a good experience with this recall. They replaced the fuel pump. Showed me the suspect part, explained when they replace vs. add the collar. Didn't see cracks at first but they showed up after removal. Overall a good experience. Did it while I waited and lusted over the new bikes.
  20. scfrank

    scfrank Old farts riding club.

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    They said, cracks means new fuel pump. No cracks means collar.