1200GSW Fixed Fork Tube Issues & Recall Threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by chef_of_the_future, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. GroceryRun

    GroceryRun Been here awhile

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    Found fiche for R1200GSW ADV 14-15 (K51) so not sure if same bike.
    Is it part number 1 that has the crimps on this Stanchion diagram ?
    Is the black tubular thing part number 4 ?

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  2. GroceryRun

    GroceryRun Been here awhile

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    R1200GSW ADV 14-15 (K51).
    Fiche of Upper Fork Cross Brace.
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  3. GroceryRun

    GroceryRun Been here awhile

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    I guess what we are saying is that the top assembly (where the #3 is pointing at of the Stanchion diagram ) is separating from the Stanchion ( can I call it an inner fork tube ? ) ? I am assuming that the top assembly is held on by the visual crimps some how.

    Can I also assume the Stanchion is held into the Upper Fork Cross Brace by the what looks like a threaded rod of the Stanchion top assembly , thru part #2 (Upper Fork Cross Brace fiche, joint link ) and held on by part #7 ( Upper Fork Cross Brace fiche , hex nut ) ?
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  4. Zevulun

    Zevulun Been here awhile

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    I'm curious how many inmates that have bikes on order will seriously reconsider.
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  5. Trixie

    Trixie Adventurer in my own mind

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    My '15 GSAW has what looks to be a set screw that angles inward from the cap. Design change, or different spec for Adv models?
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  6. GS Addict

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    Its a great design IMO
    I have yet to see an oilhead or hexhead do this....
    I wonder if all the pursuit of making things lighter has shown the new weakness.
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  7. miker325

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    Checked my '15 and found no gap at the top of the tube, where it snugs against the top assembly. It too has the set screw Trixie mentions above, but I couldn't say for sure what that screw does because my repair manual DVD is in my office at work.
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  8. Trixie

    Trixie Adventurer in my own mind

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    It looks like the tiny screws are just vents.

    (+) Venting fork legs
    (-) Venting fork legs
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    Remove threaded plugs (1).

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    Dispose of O-rings (2) in the appropriate manner.

    [​IMG]
    Install threaded plugs (1) with new O-rings (2).
    [​IMG] Tightening torques
    Sealing screw in fork plug

    M4 x 8, Replace O-ring
    2.5 Nm
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  9. nobody0101

    nobody0101 Been here awhile

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    Concerning for sure, but have to keep in mind the fact that basically all other bikes have had no problems.
    Will probably be fine just as on the other 99.9% of bikes in use.
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  10. Trixie

    Trixie Adventurer in my own mind

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    The fixed fork tube (inner) as it is called, doesn't seem to be serviceable, from what I've searched on the repair manual. There are a number of bushings and seals on the fork slider, but no springs or any other items inside, save for some oil for slide lubrication.
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  11. miker325

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    Couldn't load the photos, Trixie. Might be my computer, but can you reload and try again?
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  12. rider1150gsadv

    rider1150gsadv Jack of all trades, master of none...

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    I'm sure it'll be taken care of by the mothership but I'd hate to be the one stuck in BFE with a busted bike like that. I would have though that by now BMW would have their sh^t together for the most part..:arg
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  13. ragtoplvr

    ragtoplvr Long timer

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    Report any failure to the NHSTA web site. They seem to be aware of some issues, if a few more are reported along with Photos etc they will force a recall.

    The life you save may be your own.

    Rod
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  14. Trixie

    Trixie Adventurer in my own mind

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    That's weird, they were up for some time, now they are gone.

    try again:

    Core activity

    (+) Removing fixed fork tube
    (-) Removing fixed fork tube
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    Remove protective cap (1).

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    Remove bleed screw (2) with O-ring (3).

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    Carefully pull fixed fork tube (4) out of slider tube (5) and catch escaping oil.

    [​IMG]

    ATTENTION

    Slackening the threaded fastener in the quick-release axle bore of the slider tube.
    Causes permanent leakage of the slider tube.
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    Do not slacken the threaded fastener in the quick-release axle bore of the slider tube.
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    Turn slider tube (5) upside down and drain out the oil.
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    Carefully pry out sealing boot (1).

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    Remove circlip (2).

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    Remove radial shaft sealing ring (3) with internal puller (No. 00 8 561), thread adapter (No. 00 8 564), pull rod (No. 13 5 251) and impact weight (No. 13 5 253).
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    Can't see the photos.

    Thanks.
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  17. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Two or three people are posting on several threads about the same "potential" situation. Seems like an isolated incident blown out of proportion, with the flames fanned by a few new posters.
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  18. dnrobertson

    dnrobertson Big Bike, Slow Rider

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    Trixie, you need to put the photos on a picture hosting site and past the URL. At the moment the URL is pointing to your local computer. if your URL has http://127.0.0.1 as part of the address, nobody but you will see them.
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  19. Duane1969

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    What he said!!!!!!!!!
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  20. Bundi

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    Sorry, been busy all day and only look at my computer in the evening. We left SA for home two days after the tour so I don’t know what the BMW engineer had to report OR if he turned up. I will try to contact the guy who had the crash and see if he has any news. He lives in the US so probably won’t hear until tomorrow same time.

    I walked back over 100 meters from where the bike ended up and looked for a pothole or rock…anything! Found nothing on the road AND the road was dead straight. I was the second one on the scene, his riding mate had just got to him before I arrived. They were both a little shocked. He kept saying, “The front just collapsed and folded under me…never happened to me before”. I have no reason not be believe him. If you are going to make some BS story up it's not going to be that one.

    As I mentioned before he is a gun rider. Prior to this the bike had not been dropped. It had been ridden hard and fast but not abused. No other bikes on the trip had any such problems. We ALL checked the fork tops for oil before proceeding!

    If I hear from him I will post again.
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