17/19 wheel combo - what width rim?

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  1. galbo950

    galbo950 Been here awhile

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    Getting a spare set of wheels for the more road orientated trips. Curious as to what size width rim I should run on the 19 inch front and 17 inch rear? Its for a 950SE.
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    mcmann Motorcycle ADV enthusiast

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    I went to a 5" rear wheel and 160 size tire for my 950A because I like the way my 625SMC handled with stock 5.0" X 17 rim & 160 rear tire. A 5" will allow 160 or 170 size tires.


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  3. Gedjack

    Gedjack Adventurer

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    So did i, the handling is great. I have the 160 tyre on mine.
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    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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  5. wee tee cee

    wee tee cee Been here awhile

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    with the bigger rim and tyre,does the back wheel slot back in or is it tight at the caliper.my 625smc was a bugger to e-install.
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  6. Rapid Dog

    Rapid Dog bikes, booze, broads...

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    I am way curious about the 17/19 deal, both for handling and for height issues. Read the other posts already.
    I think I'd go with a set of Conti Trial Attacks.
    I do wonder about how well the bike would handle in the dirt, though I mostly do mild dualsport stuff, fire roads, some desert stuff, slow technical forest trails and roads.
    I'm just smitten how well the 950 ADV handles with the stock wheels compared to my R12GS when I think about it bike to bike.
    That said, I don't want to sacrifice alot of off-road capability.

    Decisions Decisions...:tb
    I got the scoop from Zach at Woody's:

    I'll break it down for you-
    Front rad hub-299 Stock hub-270(pretty much any color)
    Rear rad hub-299 Stock hub-260
    Front 19x2.5 Silver- 195 black is 220
    Rear 4.25x17 silver-229 black is 249
    SS spokes and nipples 128 ea wheel
    Superlace and true- 99 ea. wheel
    Sprocket carrier wrubber dampeners- Rad-199 stock is 180
    Full wheel set high end is -1725 for the set with sprocket carrier low end is 1380 without sprocket carrier!
    Thanks, Zach
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  7. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    Depending on how aggressive you are in the dirt you will be giving up quite a bit of dirt performance and offroad tire selection.

    I have two sets of wheels and use my 19/17 strictly as a Street set-up. I consider it my SM set up. I really like the Conti Trail Attacks on the road. They handle well and stick very well.

    However, I do not consider any tire in the 19/17 range, besides a TKC 80, a dirt tire.


    What I did was score a used set of wheels off the flea market and made those my dirt wheels, then took my old beat up wheels and had Woody convert them to the 19/17 set up. Saved a bit of money that way.

    My 2 cents!

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  9. Rapid Dog

    Rapid Dog bikes, booze, broads...

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    how much delivered?
    good tip on the stand
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  10. ABYSS

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    and got the billet hubs and oversize spokes it was around 1700 OTD with shipping. The best thing I ever did. I saving up to send my original hubs in and have them laced as well it will be a good bit cheaper but then I will go with the TKC 17x19 for dirt as well.
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  11. galbo950

    galbo950 Been here awhile

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    Well the decision was made and i ordered the follwoing:

    Front: 19 x 2.5 RAD Hubs with Excel Rim.
    Rear: 17 x 4.25 RAD Cush Drive Hub with Carrier and Excel Rim.

    The set up is costing me $2039 AUD. Would've been cheaper if I went for SM Pro rims but after doing a bit of research apparently the Excel are a stronger rim. Should have them within 4 - 6 weeks.
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    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    Nice!

    It's expensive, but I think you will be pleased. I can swap between the two sets of tire in about 20 min taking it easy.
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    $$$$$ well spent.
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  14. ABYSS

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    Get a second set of brake rotors and a second rear sproket that way when you swap out you wont have to spend any time transfering them.



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  15. galbo950

    galbo950 Been here awhile

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    That was the plan, just priced KTM genuine disc in Oz, not cheap and I cant seem to find anything after market here. The sprocket is easy to source though. Was planning on dropping the rear sprocket to a 42T.
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    galbo950 Been here awhile

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    The wheels have just been finished this afternoon and I can pick them up tomorrow. Brake rotors have been ordered and will hopefully be here Monday. Have a 42T Chain Gang sprocket for the rear. Decided to fit the Conti Trail Attack tyres front and rear. Question is, does the 150/70-17 fit or do I need to go for the 140?? Hopefully if all goes to plan the wheels will be fitted up to the bike by Tuesday or Wednesday :clap .
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  17. overlandr

    overlandr Dystopist

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    I thought the later 640 SMC had the wider cast swingarm that would make fitment of a wider tyre a doddle? WHat swingarm did you have on yours and which tyre width?
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  18. Rapid Dog

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    Right now I have a TKC 150 on the 5" rear. Snug to get in but no clearance problems.
    Had a 160 Sync on before. No problemo.
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    overlandr Dystopist

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    Thanks but I was referring to a 640 SMC.
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    overlandr Dystopist

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    WHat tyre section are people using on a road only tyre for the front 19x2.5?
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