1981 Honda CT-110 Trail Review and Observations

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  1. klm4755

    klm4755 Been here awhile

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    Enclosed are a few restoration shots and review of my recent purchase a 1981 CT-110. The 110 versions were from years 1980 thru 1986. The 1981 thru 1986 have the coveted dual transmission. The bike has a main tank under the seat and an auxiliary storage tank under the back rack. This bike had 550 miles and was a great Craig’s list find. The bike weighs in at 202 lbs per the owners manual. The Yahoo site is a great resource for these bikes. Best to get the 110 version rather than the CT-90. Many parts are available on e-bay. I rebuilt the carb, new points, condenser, plug also adjusted timing, clutch and valves.
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    New E-bay shocks for $40 to replace the rusty OEM shocks
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    Just remove the bushing and perfect fit
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    There adjustable too!
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    Side by side
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    Front view of bike…I added the front rack, new mirrors, changed the front fork oil with ATF
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    Right side view….painted skid plate, center stand, foot pegs muffler, rear rack, kick stand
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    Came with a buddy seat….not shown…also I added rear foot pegs and fixed the rear tail turn signals
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    Painted the aux tank…The tank is more of a fuel carrier, it does not feed fuel into the carb, you would transfer the fuel from the aux tank into the tank under the seat by pouring it. Kick stand painted. most decals removed
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    Engine removed 2x bolts…engine weighs ~50 lbs
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    Rebuilt engine for swap…from E-bay
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    Old one pretty rusty
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    Raise into position
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    Bolt up to frame…real easy to work on
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    Parts off to be painted
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    Tank inspected…lots of rust in there
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    As seen here
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    Fuel Tank treatment chemicals
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    Close outlet with fuel line
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    Add Muritic acid + some bolts and shake…remove…add phosphoric acid and shake….all clean
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    Review and observations of bike:
    1. Fun to ride
    2. 4x speed auto clutch…so no clutch…
    3. Maximum level speed 48 mph
    4. Claimed to get 100 mpg
    5. weak suspension…ok for trails
    6. 6V electrical system (all are 6v)
    7 . lots of parts available
    8 can upgrade engine to get more power
    9 can ride 2 up
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    My other ride
    Keithm
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  2. error cooled

    error cooled anything but asphalt

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    I think this may be a bit misleading. Not all CT110's are created equally.

    The CT110 has a 16cc advantage in displacement over the CT90 (89 v. 105), but it is also heavier than the CT90. In reality performance is a wash.

    Anecdotal evidence suggets the 69 K1 model puts out the most power stock due to a hotter stock cam and jetting.

    1980 like you mentioned lacked the dual range tranmission that is present on all CT90's and 81-86 CT110's. Also 1982 and on went to a CDI ignition. This is nice, but good luck sourcing a replacement.

    As far as parts go due to sheer production volume in the states CT90's have a better parts supply. The CT110 is still produced in small numbers globally but good luck scoring those parts domestically. Either way DrATV is a good bet.

    Now I am a bit biased but I also think aestecially the CT90's trumped the CT110's with more metal and less plastic - but thats debateable.

    Otherwise awesome looking ride! Enjoy it- I know I enjoy mine.

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  3. crooked roads

    crooked roads I'm back

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    Love those little toys. Price when new?
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  4. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    I sure wish Honda would bring them back. They're still in production and sold as "agricultural bikes" (???) in a few countries, the last I checked. I have a fantasy of traveling the western U. S. on one when I retire but I don't want to do it on something I might have trouble getting parts for.

    What wonderful, simple little motorbikes, whether the early Trail 55/90, the later CT-90 or the final 110 version. With gasoline going to record highs America needs a durable and practical bike like this and the Chinese ought to build a quality reproduction of these. I'd be perfectly happy with a 1980-style motor without the "high/low" range gearbox and if I needed to lower the gearing I'd use an overlay sprocket like the original Trail 55/90 had. My experience with Chinese motors on pit bikes has shown they can build a reliable and durable unit and at an excellent price--if you can stomach the idea that they're made in a brutal Communist country.:puke1
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  5. vortexau

    vortexau Outside the Pod-bay

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    from Deals Direct (Australian discount shopping site) Prices in Australian dollars!
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  6. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    I was fortunate to find a FULLY AUTOMATIC 48cc Loncin motor on eBay brand new for $33 US (plus $49 shipping). These are the Honda 50 four-stroke lookalikes installed in Chinese mini quads. There are deals to be had on these little motors--shop around!!

    This unit, installed in my Passport chassis, will make it motorized bicycle legal here in Indiana and many other states.
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  7. twotired

    twotired Adventurer

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    still sold new here in New Zealand:yum

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  8. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    These are the straight four-speed versions, right? As sold in Austrailia as "Postie Bikes?"

    Lord, do I want one...
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  9. error cooled

    error cooled anything but asphalt

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    Im pretty sure NZ gets the traditional 4speed with the high/low transfer case and subtransmisson. It is sold as an agricultural bike. Identical to the last 1986 model sold in the US, but with 12v lighting.

    http://www.honda-motorcycles.co.nz/bikedetails.asp?BikeTypeID=8&ModelID=126&type= - you can clearly see the sub-transmission

    The postie of AU of course lacks the sub-transmission, and also is slightly tweaked with a different speedometer placement and crash bars.


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    With top marks for reliability, quality, durability, comfort, and economy - it's no wonder this bike has a mighty reputation with farmers across the nation. With its four-stroke reliability and great economy the CT110 has a smooth torque curve for controllability. It also has a dual range four-speed transmission allowing eight speeds.
    The CT110 has a convenient heel toe shifter, automatic centrifugal clutch, and a wet sump oil system similar to your vehicle. It also comes with a front carrier, and standard left and right side stands.









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  10. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    Like the song sez--you don't know what you got 'til it's gone...
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  11. klm4755

    klm4755 Been here awhile

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    I’ve enclosed a few more photo’s of the CT110 in contrast with the KLR650
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    CT 110 back from a store run
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    hi/lo shifter placard
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    actual hi/lo lever
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    added from basket
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    clutch adjust behind that rubber boot by rear brake lever
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    6v battery and tool kit behind that cover
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    6v battery tender
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    CT-110 and KLR650
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    offset front view
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    side view
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    rear 1/4 view
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    another rear view..this CT-110 is in great shape. Less that 600 miles, KLR has 7,000 miles
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    this is where I store the CT in the garage
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    6V battery tender leads
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    no hassle connector
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    out of the way when not in use
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    plenty of room for the KLR as a stable mate!
    Keithm
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  12. twotired

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    >>Im pretty sure NZ gets the traditional 4speed with the high/low transfer case and subtransmisson. It is sold as an agricultural bike. Identical to the last 1986 model sold in the US, but with 12v lighting. <<

    Thats correct,they are sold here as a farm bike and have the high/low transmission.
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  13. Dranrab Luap

    Dranrab Luap E-Tarded Super Moderator

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    Very nice restoration. What kind of top speed do you get?
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  14. KL5A

    KL5A Bugs are the new black

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    My first bike was the CT90. Top speed was 65 mph downhill and that was, to be kind, inadvisable. 50 was a good flatland speed.

    I noticed the 110 has a black rack, is it chrome underneath? I've never seen anything but chrome racks. And my buddy seat was a pillow and a bungee cord. :freaky I spent many happy days running that poor little bike pretty much into the dirt, you can kill them, but it takes effort. Oh, and I got 73 miles per gallon...back when gas was .68 a gallon, a buck and a half would run it all week.

    I'm waiting for Honda to bring them back over here (unlikely) or one of the Chinese knockoffs to show up. That basic C90/CT90 architecture is one of the most popular small bikes on the planet, in 50cc form (Cub) IIRC it is the most built motorcycle of all time. New CT110's are $3500 in japan. Way more than I am going to spend on one.
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  15. klm4755

    klm4755 Been here awhile

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    My real life top speed is 48 mph (GPS verified), on level ground sitting in normal riding position. My weight is 170 lbs.
    Keithm
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  16. farqhuar

    farqhuar Lone Wolf

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    I own a Postie bike - yep they forego the dual range and do have a high mount speedo (so they can be read above the front mount mail sacks), crash bars, and a turn signal buzzer. Mine's a 2002 with 30k kms on it and is in absolutely spotless condition - cost me $500 3 years ago.

    We can also buy the dual speed bikes too, they sell for around $3,000 brand new (actually $2k on special at present to compete with the Sachs Madass).

    Garry from Oz.
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  17. DarinB

    DarinB Fish Hunter Esq.

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    Your Trail 110 rocks. I'd love to have one. The ATC 110 I used to have had the same high/low range on it and it was fun to see how well I could climb with it.
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  18. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    If the U. S. market could get them and sell for a couple of grand I'd believe they'd sell like crazy especially with gas going to record highs. Hey, we can dream, right?
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  19. FahrtMeister

    FahrtMeister Gnarled Adventurer

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    Nice bike, I have one too. Australia Post auctions them every year, once theyve doen about 20,000 k's. Our version is a special, made for AP. Heavy duty rims and shox, comfy seat etc, but no dual range.
    Last year I crossed the Nullarbor plain on one, with a group of 30 guys. Busted my collarbone in the process but finished the ride. 3000k's of mostly dirt riding in 9 days. Lot of fun.
    Down here we have many 'postie bike' events. I am doing another one in October, in Tasmania.
    Dont let anyone tell you these arent a serious bike. They are awesome.
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  20. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    They aren't CT-90/110's but Passports are cheap and available in the U. S. and have the potential to accept any of the new Chinese 125-150cc motors available for the pit bike market. From my own experience these motors are pretty much stone reliable--the Chinese have done a good job with them--and one of these in a Passport chassis could be the potential for a pretty cool little bike.

    Right now a lady on eBay is selling off her remaining Passport parts stash and she has three chassis' she's selling with a starting price of $9.99. She says they're going to the recycler if no one buys them so a deal is there to be had. She's in Oregon for reference so put in "C70" as your eBay search key word. A lot of new and used parts are available there and the collectors haven't found favor with these like the CT-90/110's have so the parts go cheap.

    Anyone have a clue if the later hydraulic fork from the CT's will fit the Passport? The steering head on mine is about 7 1/8" long for reference. I'd like to add a CT-90 or 110 front end to my Passport "no-ped" project if it'll bolt up. I'd really like to add one of these front ends if they do and eventually a tubular swing arm and better shocks from a D/P bike.
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