1984 1100cc honda sabre-advice please!

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  1. froggymike

    froggymike peon

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    Hey guys,
    today i bought my first "go fast go strait" bike. I got it for under a thousand bucks and it runs real strong and starts up every time. The only thing the bike really needs is all kinds of fluids (oil, Coolant, anti freeze, brake fluid and clutch fluid:dutch ) and the front fender brackets are broken. The guy who sold it too me was a real character and i asked him a couple questions about what else it needed. I suggested it might need a carb cleaning but he suggested just to use some sea foam do you agree?(also it has backfired once) The bike is really wonderful for the price but there is allot of rust on the bottom and lower parts of the motorcycle will coke and aluminum foil do the trick on something this old?
    I would also like to know if any one could give me a good link to a owners or service manuel for the bike!
    I was thinking of just cleaning up the bike before I paint it with engine black. I have a pretty good idea of what im gonna use to clean up the bike but if any one has any suggestions please share them.
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  2. Hawk Medicine

    Hawk Medicine Coyote's Brother

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    Please fill in your profile and post some photos.

    No photos, didn't happen...! :deal
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  3. Boostwizzard

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    OK, here is a link worth readin

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Sabre_V4

    Prob not bad engines if they were looked after. :freaky , I like the starts up and runs strong, but leaks like a sieve and needs sea weed?:lol3 ....sorry,meant foam:wings
    If bought cheap enough, the 65's are good motors, even though they were probably more popular in the interceptors and Magna's then the sabre, but thats not what you have so bullocks with it then....:lol3
    guess you gonna resolve the leaks, but only thing of concern is the cam on these dudes.......

    GOOD luck with it and hope it gives you the riding pleasure we all look for every time we start up and straddle our iron.......
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  4. What?

    What? curmudgeon

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    And that is not a fender brace. It is a fork brace. When one fork runs out of oil it causes undue stress on that bracket and it cracks. I would keep both wheels on the ground until you replace it.
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  5. froggymike

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    the front fork is acting kinda weird I know that there is problem it seems like it dips to much on one side when I turn. Im going to check it out in the next couple of days but i was thinking about completely changing it out but since im aiming to improve the bikes turning abilities i was wondering if there are any market forks that might help with this
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  6. Sniper X

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    I can say I never met a Honda Saber rider who wasn't a chachter, and that's putting it Mildly! In fact everyone who I ever saw or met was quite weird. One guy rode the wheels off of his and was great at wheelies on it, and it was a V65 Saber. It actually hauled ass...straight and did corner pretty well for how humongous it was.
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  7. Doug Just Doug

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    Congrats. You'll have fun with it. My dad had a V65 Sabre for years; it was a very reliable machine.
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  8. Tommy2

    Tommy2 Been here awhile

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    My FIL has a '85 V65 Magna. He seems to love it. They have plent of power. Doesn't seem to have any issues for such an old water cooled bike with 4 carbs, 4 cylinders.
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  9. Sniper X

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    They were Hondas answer to the Yamaha V Max btw......at least a good attempt at it.
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  10. Sniper X

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    Let me rephrase that, The V Max was Yamahas answer to the V65 Saber.
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  11. concours

    concours WFO for 41 years

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    I just spent twenty hours and four cases of brake cleaner to remove the rattle can paint job someone felt they needed to do on my old bikes engine.
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  12. Sniper X

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    I hate it when some schmo paints a good looking polished aluminum motor in flat black! Some that came satin or high polish black look great, but when someone paints a natural aluminum motor black.....UGLY!
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  13. froggymike

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    I wished my engine was polished
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    I had an '83 V45 in '87. The swinging arm had rusted through as had the exhaust box and the brake pistons seized. There was sand on the wrong side of the airfilters and the air suspension didn't hold air. The chocolate cams were rattling too.....electronic dash worked ok. How I loved that V4 motor, it had a totally different feel to the VFR750 I had later. I fixed the obvious faults and sold it on but I still think of it from time to time.:D
    In the UK it had a horrendous reputation something unknown for a Honda and the press always sited it as the reason for the VFR being so overengineered and an alleged sales loss leader.
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    I can say it was (hondas V4 motor) the hardest motor to work on I ever worked on. I did a jet kit on the vfr500R once, I quoted the guy $150.00 and it took friggin 8 hours because the carbs were so friggin hard to get out and back in.
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  16. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    I've plucked a number of old bikes from garages, and I'm happy to say the my first line of attack on carbs has always been Seafoam.
    I'm happy to say that it has led to minimal carb teardowns in my garage.
    Try it.
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    thanks for the advice!
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  18. froggymike

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    how much do you think a professional paint job would cost. I would like to have the engine cleaned and repainted and have rust on the bottom of the bike, exhaust, and swing arm repainted?
    I know it's hard to give a precise opinion but if you have an idea of what it may cost please go ahead.
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  19. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    STOP. Try it yourself. Don't go spending a bunch of money a bike that's not worth much.
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  20. What?

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    I bought my Sabre from a guy that was going to powdercoat the frame and make the bike look just like new. He took everything off of the frame. 9 years later, after moving the bike around his garage one too many times, he put it on Craigs list for $500.
    Moral to the story, don't bite off more than you can chew.
    And remember, when you are done, you might get $1,500 for it.
    Did you sign up to V4hondabbs.com yet? What is your handle?
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