1986 R65 Cafe Racer project 'Death Racer'

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by violetpop, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. violetpop

    violetpop Been here awhile

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    Elliot, i will be lucky to do the ton on any public road hahaha In saying that, i will see your bike in action and get pumped up looking for more mph!
  2. violetpop

    violetpop Been here awhile

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    Thanks gents! hahaha i wish it could be done faster but as with everything good, it takes time! Stay tuned... Motorwork UK service was great. I called them also to touch base and confirm the order and they were briliant over the phone and everything was spot on when the package arrived. Just the way i like it. Same goes with flat racer uk, Edgar was so good to deal with!
  3. violetpop

    violetpop Been here awhile

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    That is correct, Viet! I will be looking at getting a much more stream line, lower screen made to fit with the lines of the bike. I will also be running an acewell digital dash so i can run a lower screen. Should be good!
  4. johnyrrr

    johnyrrr Been here awhile

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    So cool, cant wait to see the exhaust


  5. VietHorse

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    You guys may know about the name Ritmo Sereno.
    Yeah, from this workshop, there are few very cool BMW cafe racers built.
    Check it out here:
    http://www.ritmo-sereno.com/customfile/index.html

    And there are bikes which may give yous some build ideas:

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  6. gs-ell

    gs-ell Been here awhile

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    Voltaire

    I don't suppose you'll know the difference in stock cam phase between the R65 and R100 would you?
    I know the r100 has a different phase i just can't find the numbers!!

    Thanks
  7. SERE Nate

    SERE Nate Been here awhile

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    Looking great!
  8. supershaft

    supershaft because I can

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    What are the angles exactly so we all can get some R65 cams made?

    I think all of the R65 horror stories are just that. The rods don't break any more than the others AND those 7mm valves don't break any more than the others. The heads do warp more for being a lot lighter but . . . . No one mentions that because they really don't know what they are talking about when it comes to R65 reliability.
  9. gs-ell

    gs-ell Been here awhile

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    Supershaft,

    In my road going r65 i run the r100 cam, it has a wider phase on the cam so gives more torque low down, and slightly increased the acceleration of the bike.
    I use the r65 as you can rev it's nuts off and the r100 cam doesn't change that.

    You can buy the 336 cam from moorespeed - http://www.moorespeed.co.uk/

    But if you're after a tailored cam you'd be best speaking to a company with your requirements as they can change the lobe shapes, lengths and phase's

    Hope it helps
  10. supershaft

    supershaft because I can

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    What is phase?

    You are running a R100 cam in a R65? Your cam timing is way off early on the right cylinder and way off late on the left. Even IF one cylinder is timed better than stock, the other one definitely is not! I would rather have a cam ground for that engine that takes into account the different angle at the lifter bores.
  11. Voltaire

    Voltaire Bored Of The Rings

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    I don't know, never thought to ask. Just gave them a std cam and Maxheadroom has a set of 33 masters and he explained the 'phasing' which I take means as you said the cam follower angles.
    I'm hoping to have the R45 powered racer going for Jan.
  12. gs-ell

    gs-ell Been here awhile

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    As far as i understood it, the phase is the angle of separation between the lobes that allows you to alter the angles of valve lift and timing from TDC, but as i'm at work i'm not too sure now...

    The cam idea was given to me by a guy at motorworks who raced r65 drag bikes, i've started running the bike rich to see if i can stop the top end bogging down in 4th, but i've not been on it for a while now, so can't report anything great yet!
    I'm starting to put together a blog of planned improvements for the engine and the progress over the following year, i've been really boring reading about the best cam for what i'm after, i'll post up findings so far if it helps.

    All the best
  13. supershaft

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    I was thinking that a Cam Dr. could guestimate the angle IF that particular R65 cam sampled was timed perfectly and that is a BIG if. My ONE experience getting a cam ground with a real famous Northern Ca. cam shop was NOT good! :D
  14. violetpop

    violetpop Been here awhile

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    Have some small updates as the bike is still at the fabricators. They are welding in some new foot peg brackets for the rear seats and sent me an update shot. Looks the goods!
    (Sorry for such a poor quality photo)

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    In other news, my graphic designer knocked up a few colour and strip combinations... I always had a black of some sort in mind but after seeing the white I'm swaying towards it.. What are your thoughts?

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    I'm not sure if I've posted this but my designer is always up to interesting and wonderful things. Here is some of his work.

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    Over the weekend I had a chance to visit the Sydney Scooter and Motorcycle Expo and take a look at the all new BMW NineT. I do like this bike very much but I think it will be way out my price range so I will wait for a second hand one to come up down the track.

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    I also did a little drawing of how I'm thinking this bike is going to turn out. Smooth lines and everything kept tight with a hint of racing bike to it.

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    Peace, Tony Pop.
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    Amazing... You must be an artist :clap

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    Rapid Dog bikes, booze, broads...

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    ...hmmm...I heard on another thread I'm gonna hate this... :ear:ear:ear
  17. boyblu

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    While you're at it, why not replace the R65 engine with an R100? Then you'd have something!
  18. violetpop

    violetpop Been here awhile

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    I would like to down the track. Obviously I would be looking for some better stopping power at the same time. So I'm going to try my luck with the 65 engine for now. I did do some ringing around and found the later model engine (plug and play for my wiring loom) was hard to come by and when I found one, they wanted an arm for it... Looking back, I should have started with the r100 mono straight up.
  19. violetpop

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    Some updates... Rear sets are done and the shock cartridge has been mounted. He also made up a bracket for the battery box still keeping it fully removable.

    ***** At the last minute the fabricator decided to weld in and complete the X section of the sub frame. His thinking was the original set up would be fine but "just in case" IMO it still looks bloody great!

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  20. KhaoSanMan

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    Looking Very Cool. The photos earlier made the subframe mounting still confusing. Now that the "X" is complete it makes a lot more sense by looking at it.

    Keep up the great work!