1st time Trip Preparation gear list -- recommendations needed?

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by Stroked 550, Feb 5, 2017.

  1. Stroked 550

    Stroked 550 Dirt Nut

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    well I am prepping for my first long distance trip, I am going start cruising up the California coast up to Oregon and dropping down through the sierra Nevada's.

    I wanted to get some feedback on the gear to carry as I get the feeling this is a bit overkill

    MOTORCYCLE SPARE PARTS

    1. Tire tubes

    2. Tire patch kit

    3. Tire Iron and spanner

    4. Hand air pump

    5. Chain lube

    6. Spare engine/trans oil

    7. Air filter oil

    8. Spare clutch cable,

    9. Brake and clutch levers

    10. Shifter (now have IMS so will not take spare in future)

    11. a good tool kit with rags, spare electrical stuff

    12. duct tape, super glue, electrical tape

    13. several ski straps for lashing down

    15. Small file

    16. Tow strap $2

    17 JB weld

    18. Cable / Zip ties


    19. Gaffer tape

    20. Hanger wire

    21. Jubilee clips

    22. Electrical tape

    23. Fuses

    24. Spare bulbs

    25. Nuts & bolts

    26. Vice grips:

    27. Cable repair kit –

    28. multi-tool

    29. Loctite

    30. Hacksaw

    31. WD40 (lube)

    32. Talcum powder

    33. 2 x rims savers

    34. Tire pressure gauge

    35. Spoke spanner

    39. Vulcanising cement Buffer/Stitcher combo tool

    40. wheel removal tools

    41. Bead buddy

    42. Valve stem puller

    44. some tubing

    45. Brake Fluid –

    46. Sparkplugs –

    47. Some electrical wire / quick clamps –

    48. steel flat bar pieces (10cm) &

    49. steel hose clamps

    50. Spoke Wench

    51. Cable lube

    52. AAA batteries



    ELECTRONICS


    1. Handheld GPS with spare batteries

    2. Ram Mount for GPS

    3. Camera with spare batteries and multiple SD cardsd

    3. Cell Phone

    4. Gopro with spare batteries and SD Cards

    5. Gopro mount

    6. SPOT2 Tracker




    PERSONAL GEAR

    1. drop kit with soap, shaving stuff, etc

    2. lavilin (*vitamins, sunscreen, nail clippers

    3. Toilet paper

    4. lighter

    5. small shovel $60 https://www.rei.com/product/871854/gerber-e-tool-folding-spade

    6. camelback reservoir, lives in tank pannier with hose clipped to tank bag

    7. xtra 4mil cord for misc

    8. microfibre dish towel for drying off after infrequent showers

    10. tissues,

    11. wet wipes,

    12. hand sanitiser

    13. Medical Kit

    14. LED Head Torch $110 https://www.rei.com/product/107938/petzl-reactik-headlamp

    15. 1L Platypus and Drinking hose

    16. Maps & Recta Elite Global Compass Garmin Zumo 660 (with the most up-to-date FREE and downloadable OSM maps)

    17. SPOT2 Tracker

    18. suntan lotion,

    19. Ibuprofen,

    20. bin bags

    21. Mossie Headnet & 100% Deet Spray

    22. Write in the Rain Notepad & pens

    23. MSR Grater/Strainer,

    24. MSR Alpine Scraper/Scub, $5 https://www.rei.com/product/814694/msr-alpine-dish-brushscraper

    25. MSR Hyper Flow water filter & Chlorine Dioxide Steri-Tabs

    26. Exped waterproof bag,

    27. mesh bag

    28. 4L Dromedary.

    29. Sewing kit 2 x Spare Rok Straps

    30. micro-fibre towel,

    31. shower gel,

    32. anti-perspirant,

    33. toothbrush,

    34. toothpaste

    35. dental floss

    36. nail Clippers

    37. engine key, key taped to inside of fairing

    38. Owner’s manual with emergency credit card & $100 cash

    39. Maps,

    40. Compass.

    41. A day's worth of spare food,

    42. snacks.

    43. Water.

    44. flashlight,

    45. lighter

    46. Flint fire starter

    47. Axe / hatchet
    48. Solar Charger




    COOKING


    1. Wood stove

    https://www.rei.com/product/829302/vargo-titanium-hexagon-backpacking-wood-stove

    2.GSI Outdoors Halulite Microdualist Cookset


    3. 8" fry/saute pan with gripper -----------$20 https://www.rei.com/product/895452/gsi-outdoors-bugaboo-frypan-8-in

    4. *dishtowel

    5. spice kit with curry, salt, mini pepper grinder, oregano, veg stock cubes, garlic

    6. olive oil in reusable plastic bottle

    7. maple syrup in reusable plastic

    8.Utensil set ----------

    9. SOG Escape ---

    10. Diamond Knife sharpener ------------

    11. MSR Dromedary bag 6L for water ---------

    12. Water bottle canteen -------$


    13. Water treatment Katadyn Ceramic Mini Filter


    CAMPING

    1. Big Agnes Battle Mountain 2 Tent ------

    Mountain Hardwear EV 3 Tent

    2. Big Agnes insulated sleeping pad ----

    3. REI ------------

    4. Pillow -----------

    5. Tarp 10 x 10

    6. Carabiners

    7. Hatchet

    8. Monarch backpacking chair

    9. paracord –

    10. flint and steel


    CLOTHES
    1. waterproof gloves

    2. Riding jacket ------------------------


    3. Mont-bell thermawrap jacket

    4. Riding boots

    5. merino wool T-shirt

    6. Patagonia seamless boxers

    7. 2pr ski socks

    8. balaclava

    9. jeans,

    10. T-shirt

    11. Pants that have short option (convertible pants)

    12. running sunglasses, casual sunglasses, cleaning cloths

    13. Tennis Shoes / Sandals

    14. 4 x underwear,

    15. 4 x socks,

    16. 2 x cargo trousers/shorts,

    17. 3 x T-shirts,

    18. fleece jacket Trainers
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  2. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Super Moderator

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  3. Dorito

    Dorito Dreamer and Doer

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    Remember, everything you pack on your bike should have 2 purposes. Weight it your enemy.
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  4. Solo Moto

    Solo Moto Waiting for Spring...

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    Pee bottle? Good god, man... STAND UP. And piss away! :thumb
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  5. Nashcat

    Nashcat Waitin' on the Boatman

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    Skip the $110 head light. $5 at WalMart does just as well. No wood burning stove, either. Build it on the ground. Surely you can buy extra batteries on the trip, instead of caring spares. No flint and steel, just a couple of BIC's. No spark plugs or brake fluid. Change them before the trip.

    My free advise.

    Also, check out the motocampers web site and forums.

    John
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  6. Stroked 550

    Stroked 550 Dirt Nut

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    haha no clue where that came from but im sick right now so my thinking isnt the best
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  7. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Actually weight is less an issue than VOLUME. Trying to find a place for everything is the challenge. Get things that fit inside other things. This is priority when assembling your equipment and buying it. Stove should fit in your pot. Tall cup so your cutlery fits in it. Things like that. Underwear and socks stuffed in shoes. You need a hat you need a light, get a hat with a light. Pack how you want to pack, that can mean ditching the tent bag and simply folding it to fit your duffel bottom. You may stuff everything in, but after a day or two everything will find it's place. Motorcycles are as reliable as cars nowadays, you don't need spark plugs and air filter oil and much other spares. You need to be able to fix a flat is all, or join Good Sam and they will carry your bike to help. Your bike should be fresh and in top shape when you leave, don't overlook your batteries condition. On our first trip to Mexico and our first night out we packed a box with stuff we didn't need and shipped it home! You'll get it figured out as you go and become MORE comfortable with less.
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  8. Mark Manley

    Mark Manley Long timer

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    That is rather a lot and apart from actually packing it the extra weight will increase the chances of dropping your bike and suspension parts breaking, I have met an overloaded KLR650 rider whose shock absorber had snapped nearly causing an accident and leaving him stranded. Take a look at this thread for an idea of what you will need, it does say ultralight and is not a hard and fast guide.
    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/how-do-the-ultra-lights-do-it.1176136/
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  9. boatpuller

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    Your motorcycle will likely look like the Clampet's truck once you get all that stuff on it. But I think you should do just that. Afterwards, do a careful list of what you actually used, and consider not taking the rest next time. BTW, in most parts of the country you can buy most anything you'll need to fix/survive/be comfortable quite easily not that far from wherever you are.
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  10. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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  11. goodquest

    goodquest Adventurer

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    Save for later
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  12. Switchglide12

    Switchglide12 Been here awhile

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    Man that is lot of stuff. This is on my extended trip and I camped 6 days stayed in hotel 2 days. Here is what mine looks like.

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  13. dksd39

    dksd39 Been here awhile

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    I will echo much of what has already been said.. read more and take less. That being said everyone I know took too much stuff in the beginning.. including me lol. Hit the road with as much or as little as you want and you will sort it out just like we all did. Its all part of the experience and the biggest part is actually get out and enjoying yourself. Every day will not be easy but even tough days are great.
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  14. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    It's pretty funny. I have posted stuff home more than once. Then one day Colleen bought two saloon doors in Montana. Yep we were on our BMW R1150GS's! I had to wrap them in cardboard and carry them to the Post Office and ship them home.
    Once in Colorado Springs I had taken my BMW Systems cases off my RSL and left it parked. It got stolen! I had to ship my two System cases home and ride bitch on the back of my wifes 1150!
    I still take too much stuff. Tools mainly. When I got my torque wrench out in a camp ground it got a few stares!
    I will say though when we set out for Tierra Del Fuego I got from Los Angeles California to Goodyear Arizona before I found out I had NO underwear packed......none! So much for planning. I drive the Mrs mad. I pack my clothes on the morning we leave for every trip. Her bike is packed a day ahead of time.
    We carried 4 innertubes, 2 chains, 6 sprockets, 2 clutch cables, 6 oil filters and our camping gear to TDF, and didn't use any of it...except 4 oil filters and set the tent up on beds in crappy motels!
    I weighed my stuff once....80 pounds not including the panniers. Still lighter than a passenger but it's a LOT of stuff.
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  15. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day.

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    When we travel I'm always the over-prepared one. I carry to much stuff. Same stuff for a 2 day trip as a 2 month trip. You can probably thin out your load a little, here's some things to think about.

    Engine and trans oil? It's sold everywhere. Unless your bike burns or leaks it.
    Clutch cable? I have seen them break, but in 1/2 a million miles I've never had one break. Do you have this as a common problem?
    Clutch and brake levers? Haven't broke one since bark busters where invented. Do you break them often?
    Shifter? I've used a vice grip till I could fix it properly. How often do you break them?
    Spare bulbs? They can be purchase anywhere. And won't stop the bike from running.
    Cable repair? Again nice to have but do you need it. I used a vice grip for a clutch lever and a throttle before to get someone else's bike going.
    Spoke wrench? A small wench or vice grip will do the job. You should have that already.
    Brake fluid? Can be bought anywhere. How often do you need that?
    Spark plugs? They last 100000 miles now days, How long a trip are you taking? Or are you on a two-stroke?
    Cable lube? Some people never lube the cables for the life time of a bike. Can't you make one trip? The WD40 will work in a pinch.
    Batteries? They are everywhere. Do you have a life or death device that needs them?
    Toilet paper & tissues? Paper towels that you should have cover for both of these.
    Credit card? More than one (3). I had one canceled for unusual use, they would not reinstate it, insisted on mailing a new one to my house.
    Solar charger? The bike has a stator.
    T shirts, undies, sox? 2 or 3 max.
    Trousers, jeans, convertible pants, shorts? Consolidate some of these because they are bulky.

    The big one; twice as much money and half as much stuff.

    Have fun, have a good save ride! :beer
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  16. DittyBag

    DittyBag A bag of dirty stuff

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    IMO, there is really no "right" way to do this. The question is really about minimizing regret, either on the didn't bring side or the brought too much side. For me, I would rather be in a bind than ride a barge. Remember that you still have to ride it and pick it up.

    On my first trip, I took the veteran's advice and left behind lots of things that seemed like a good idea. The only replacement part that I took was a shifter (because my bike is a Ducati and I though scarcity might play a role). Of the things that I thought that I couldn't live without, I tried to find the smallest/lightest. I would guess that I took less than 30 lbs., but it still felt loaded. I don't think that I could pick up my bike if it were heavier.

    I consider @Joe Motocross to be near end of the lean and mean crew. This is his 11 day set up. http://advrider.com/index.php?attachments/image-jpg.376214/
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    Mine

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  17. phreakingeek

    phreakingeek adventurer

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    I did the same on my first big trip...found that in the US, it's pretty easy to find a lot of the stuff I carried in any nearby town. All told, i'm sure i had at least 100lbs of gear in panniers, tankbag, tailbag.

    I did a lot of prepwork on the bike before I left and only had to change the oil once in the 7200mi I rode. Never needed more than a few wrenches, screwdrivers, and sockets...the Chapman Tools is definitely a winner for compact and light.

    I'd pair down your list to the unique items needed to get your bike to town if it breaks down.

    as for the other gear, follow other inmates advice about only taking multi-taskers. If it only has one job or role, see if you can find something else that can do more.
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  18. bigphish

    bigphish Curiously Satisfying

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    You forgot the kitchen sink
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  19. nickguzzi

    nickguzzi Long timer

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    A 1979 guzzi is not the most cutting edge bike out there, but if looked after it is stone reliable. I use Mobil 1 oil, and do 5000 miles between changes, that will take me on a round Europe trip for up to 2 weeks or 2 months - when I tend to have bases and do ride outs. The oil I can get anywhere, same as filters.
    Since 1980, I have had 1 alternator rotor go open circuit the very first time I was going abroad, only had the bike a couple of months - got 100 miles from home, right in the middle of the mile long Dartford tunnel, so at least I knew it was gone. A quick diversion to get a new one and on to the ferry.
    I did solder up a new throttle cable badly once, a guy in an agricultural workshop did the job properly for me.
    Other than that, a few rear bulbs, a bit of a thing with guzzis, have been the only thing go wrong.
    Proper planned preventative procedures preclude piss poor performance.
    I do take stuff, weighs about 10lbs. A few spare gaskets, a spare plug, an innertube, a small container of oil, a small tube of spline grease and a few bits of electrical and binding wire is about it. By good planning, a guzzi only uses a few bolt sizes for most of the stuff. I have changed many for hex heads as the tools are smaller and lighter. I made a combined axle and head race spanner (the head race feels better tighter for some reason) and a vice grip for everything else, including wire cutting. Never used them. Everything including the tire changing kit kits into a small bank cash sack, which doubles as a hand wiper, should I ever need it.
    Learn your bike, and what it needs, if things are likely to break\wear. No point taking stuff and tools you don't know how to use.
    One guzzi, 55hp. Two chubby people. Camp gear and clothing. Cruise on the slab, easy 80, or 100+ if I'm late for a ferry, or 50 if I want to pootle. Trickle over rocks and roots, two up and packed. It's a bit heavy for me now, roomy and spacious and not really comfortable as a modern bike. But since 1979, it has been doing the job well. I have altered the riding position several times, for both of us and the seat even more. I now use a sheepskin to sit on.

    You need shelter, you can use your credit card for this or carry it with you in the form of a tent hammock or bivvy. My first tent was too small, but had to do for a couple of years. As well as too small it was too hot. I replaced it with an expensive Scandinavian tent which kept the heat out better and was a 3 man for more space (for 2 people), both aspects worked much better, especially when staying put for several days.
    We went through quite a few mats and mattresses. Ultimately, we settled on cheap blow up jobbies. We carry an inflator which is often a good intro to others on campsites who have air mattresses but only a hand or foot pump. We have dumped one mattress which always to the plan, but the same ones have been in use for about 5 years now.
    Sleeping bags are down. I did try synthetic, but the temperature regulation was for me abysmal. Finding a bag with wide enough shoulders was a problem years ago. Again, mine is a Scandinavian one and now about 30 years old - a decent down bag will last a lot longer than a synthetic. I always use a liner, and have not washed the bag yet. No, no stink yet.
    Again you either use your card to pay for prepared food or do it yourself. In summer, in the south of France where I mostly go, either is a great option. Lots of very tasty, healthy produce, fresh from the farm. It takes little effort or imagination to cut up melon apart from mopping your chin. Tomatoes, fresh cheese or charcuiterie and bread from the nicest boulangerie in town makes a great meal at the end of a hot day. Beer is usually sold chilled from smaller shops, and I get wine from vinyards scattered around. Peaches or apricots to follow. I take a cheap ikea cutting board and a small ice bear slicing knife. Keep a plastic bag or two from shopping for all the pits and seeds and peeling, or you may find you get critters wanting to clear up after you.
    For making drinks, hot drinks that it, I have a trangia stove, faantastic kit for what I want to do. They are very compact, a bit smaller than half a soccer ball. That contains burner, windshield and stand and two cook pots, plus some pan grippers. I made a little trivet so I can use a small moka pot. Everything except the moka pot packs inside too with an old, empty, bic lighter just for the spark. The standard is an alcohol burner, which I used for years, but as I stayed put longer, and wanted to cook more with the local ingredients, a gas conversion made sense. Plus the propane\butane screwfit canisters are everywhere in Europe, not just camp stores. I get mine from the hardware store, the long narrow format I find easier to pack.
    I've fried and boiled, poached and grilled stuff - the cooking is really up to you, but it is easier and cheaper to do decent food than ride down to the junk food shop, especially if you like a beer or glass of wine.

    Being old (school) I have a leather jacket and heavy duty trousers. I wear Scarpa walking boots. I rarely ride off road, maybe some gravel on a deserted pass. I know some will have an AGATT fit but I take extra care and ride in Europe, bikes are treated with respect and I have never, ever had an incident while carrying a passenger, 50 riding years so far. You, and anyone else should wear what makes you feel comfortable and safe.

    We have an old fashioned side case each. Our sleeping stuff goes in, our wash kit goes in, any extra space can be used for what ever, clothes, cuddly toy. Its yours to use.

    I have a top box which is kept empty, used for the stuff we buy each day. I made a rack to fit on top and a couple of mats go there for us to sit\lay on. The tent is packet round the front of the rack. It forms a backrest, which I guess people approaching our age get to expect.

    To be honest, I lost the will to live after reading one category of your list. So there may be good stuff, but basically, you don't need much at all. For years we only had a swiss army knife each and that worked well, now I have the fancy - well at least sharp - ice bear, is life stupendously better, not really, a little more onvenient maybe. If I cooked less it would stay home.

    You are riding to have adventures. If shit happens, that's your opening story right there. Until it gets trumped by the next hilarious adventure, otherwise, take the winnibago.
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  20. banjobart

    banjobart Been here awhile

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    What is the shovel for? The axe/hatchet? A Gerber or Fiskars folding saw will make twice the firewood in a half hour with a 50th of the weight.

    For me I would add a gas siphon tube, jumper cables, tire inflator of some sort (CO2 or compressor) and whiskey. I would leave half the stuff you listed at home. Do not cook other than to boil water for drinks and freeze dried food/oatmeal. Carry ready to eat food like peanuts, pepperoni, granola/Cliff bars and dried meat. Then leave the stove home, save it for car camping.

    Go on a backpacking trip for a week or two first and you will pare this list way down. My list for Alaska from four trips to Alaska with everything I needed). I realize that this is a list for paved road travel.

    Birth certificate and title photo copies

    MOTOW or other roadside assistance card

    Passport for Canada or Mexico

    Dealer phone numbers for tires

    Credit card

    Cash, $500 per week

    Owner’s manual

    Helmet

    Rain pants and jacket

    3 pair gloves plus rain covers

    Water proof boots

    Riding coat, waterproof textile

    Fleece vest and heated liner

    Slippers

    Daily pair socks, shirts and shorts

    Riding pants and spare pair

    Swimsuit

    Sunglasses

    Earplugs - dozen pairs

    Watch

    Toilet kit; comb, toothpaste & brush, shaving, deodorant, nail clippers, lotion, mouthwash, etc.

    Paper towels

    Small cotton towel and bike polish (for face shield)

    Wet ones wipes

    Meds – Motrin & Claritin

    Camera and charger

    Cell phone & charger

    Spare keys and credit card

    GPS, maps & compass

    Flashlight and spare batteries

    Bic lighters

    Bug dope and head net

    Fuel bottle(s)

    Gas siphon

    12V compressor

    Tire plug kit

    Jumper cables

    Bungie cords

    Chain breaker and spare chain or links

    Tool kit; ratchet & socket set, wrenches, vise grips, hex keys, multi tool, 6 in 1 screwdriver, etc.

    Givi trunk/top case and/or dry bag

    Food; peanuts, pepperoni, jerky, trail mix, raisins, microwave popcorn, Cliff bars

    Bourbon

    Gatorade

    Hat for sun protection

    CPAP

    (Kahr, Keltec or S&W 642 & spare mags (for USA travel)
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