2-up Beasts?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by elementalg20, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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    rode my 650 strom all over colorado (ie elevation and lower power) with my wife loaded with camping camping (ie more weight). did just find dude. have you even spun that 650 motor up or just talking???
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  2. elementalg20

    elementalg20 Been here awhile

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    I always take the power thing with a grain of salt. Some feel the burgman 650 is the ultimate 2 up machine how can the wee strom be incapable then lol? Some think you have to have 120hp plus to ride 2up or what have you it's mostly just rationalizing wanting the power. I've not ridden a ton of mid size bikes but i know the versys had all the power i really "need".
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  3. Dyn Blin

    Dyn Blin Irn Bru Lover

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    I've owned a DL1000, it was a great bike for 1 or 2 up cruising. It was bulletproof, accessories easily found, great community and dealer support. But....

    I don't miss it:

    My '05 Tiger rides very well 2 up with my wife or daughter. We'll often pack the cans to camp without issue too. The bike looks great, it always starts conversations at stops and the community of riders makes up for the comparatively much smaller aftermarket equipment availability. That said, I've never had a problem finding a part or farkle with any real delay.

    I'm just under 6'2. My wife is 5'8", but even she appreciates the lowering kit for the rear pillion pegs (we have the TT option, but there are other cheaper solutions), otherwise no other mods needed to make it a respectable touring ride.
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  4. cycletlh

    cycletlh Slower than yesterday!

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    Too bad you do not seem to like them as the Uly really fits what you are looking for. I have 50,000 on my 2007 and will not be trading anytime soon. Put 2600 miles on it just last week and still smiling.

    Most of the people that do not like them have never even sat on one let alone ridden one. Not all bikes have issues and those that do, the issues and fixes are known. Wheel bearings are cheap (standard size available at the bearing store) compared to chains, sprockets, and valve adjustments.:wink:
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  5. RedEX

    RedEX NeverSatisfied

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    Never rode a Gen 1 Wee-Strom but have a Gen 2 (2012). After owning Kaw EX500 and C-10 Connie, I find the Suzuki's suspension very good right out of the box, including two-up. In fact I probably ride more two-up on this bike than solo. The Kaws both needed suspension upgrades, but the Strom seems very well-balanced front to rear, good adjustability, and very smooth and stable in corners. Could just be that the smoothness of the engine's power delivery helps in that regard. My GF has accompanied me on many trips on all three bikes, and as of now she finds the Wee-Strom the most comfortable. (Disclaimer, I did lower the passenger pegs for her.)

    With regards to the ability to carry two-up, V-1000 vs 650, IIRC the 1000 and Gen 1 Wee shared the same seat. So there is really no extra room on the 1000, compared to the 650, and in fact (I've checked the specs), the 650 is actually rated to carry more weight than the 1000! Counter-intuitive, I know, but the 1000 will have more "pep" while transporting whatever weight is on the bike. I test rode a 2004 V-Strom 1000 before I bought the Wee, and I must say that engine really put a grin on my face! However, even loaded with a full set of three Givi hard bags and two-up, the 650 cruises quite well at 80 mph, returning about 50 mpg, and a simple down-shift gives all the passing power we need.

    The only other bike currently available (yes I too am waiting to see what Yamaha does with that new triple!), that I'm lusting after, is the Yamaha FJR 1300, but I do like the added versatility of an adventure-bike platform, and at this point I really can't afford to own TWO bikes. (And Beemers are out 'cuz I'm a cheap bastard!) So for now the Wee-Strom is the winner, my two cents anyway. Good luck in your quest!

    Obligatory Wee-Strom photo!
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulelden/8745543573/in/photostream/
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  6. Yankee Dog

    Yankee Dog Long timer

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    I have toured 2up on the both the Uly and the 955 Tiger. They both hauled the missus and I around with about equal comfort and power.


    Here we are on the Tiger on the shore of Lake Superior. We rode up from Alabama.
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  7. WitchCityBallabio

    WitchCityBallabio Guzzi weirdo

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    Test ride a Guzzi Stelvio. It has a great pillion seat. Very comfortable touring bike. Wonderful motor, very easy bike to maintain.
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  8. elementalg20

    elementalg20 Been here awhile

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    I'd love to test a stelvio but finding one is almost as hard as me affording one.

    I nearly decided to buy a uly a couple years ago but the dealer was unwilling to negotiate at all. He still has the same bike. I'm a couple inches short in the inseam as well ad other info I mentioned about them. If one fell in my lap I'd try to make it fit.

    I've been hunting wee strom on Craigslist and one may win out just bu being so dam practical and inexpensive. Who knows I pondered a good deal on a pacific coast a while ago!
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  9. Bolzen

    Bolzen Been here awhile

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    I like this bike, rhetorical question though how long it can last with an air cool system
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  10. ronandkat

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    Many Beemers, Harleys, Ducatis etc.. surpass the 100,000 mile mark. dont think its much of an issue.
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  11. WitchCityBallabio

    WitchCityBallabio Guzzi weirdo

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    Technically, the new Guzzi's are oil cooled, air assisted. The newer Stelvio's have an even larger oil cooler than mine. For all intent and purposes making them liquid cooled. It's just that the liquid is oil. :wink:

    Having said that, I think Guzzi has plans on the table for liquid cooling. Some of the MGS-01 race bikes had liquid cooled heads, so I don't think it will be a big deal for them.

    Emission's are getting tougher and I would imagine it will be near impossible to not switch over at some point.

    As far as longevity goes, there are more than few Guzzi's with 300,000 on the clock. I've got 41,000 on mine over a year and a half including a cross country trip with a run to Alaska. Its never been down for anything other than general maintenance and tire changes.
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  12. Bolzen

    Bolzen Been here awhile

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    My Strom is getting much hotter offroad, the temp indicator is far from two bars normal and it feels. I thought at such moments that beemer riders would need to plunge their bike deliberately into a puddle once in a while :1drink
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  13. 46moo

    46moo Now with 2 cylinders

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    +1 I adjusted the suspension on my '06 to what the owners manual recommended for me alone and actually had to soften it up a bit. Rattled my teeth on the highway expansion joints!
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  14. Red Dust

    Red Dust Been here awhile

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    My partner she loved the DL650 passenger seat but now since I got the ST she says it is even better, for me the rider the flat ST seat is certainly much better!
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  15. elementalg20

    elementalg20 Been here awhile

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    ST ? St1100, ST1300, super tenere, sprint st? :D

    My wife won't be along for 500 mile days, I just want something comfortable enough that she won't want to avoid riding and staying on for a while when I do get her one. She isn't in love with riding, maybe never will be but I keep hoping I'll get a bike she'll enjoy the pillion on enough to spend some time with me.
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