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Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by cabanza, Dec 7, 2011.
Put 150 or so miles on it, don't think it's for me.
Thats way cool! Proof positive that scooters can go long and hard!
Thanks, I just think that the one poster's comments were a bit unrepresentative of what I (and other long term owners) know the bike to be. When I see BRs for sale on EBay, they are usually bone stock and low miles. They were bought by someone who is generally indifferent to riding. I've rarely found an outfitted one for sale. Once people put a little effort into outfitting them for adventure touring, they don't let them go. I currently own 8 scoots, and I can say that this is the only bike I'll never sell. They are the Land Rover Defender 90 of scooters; increasingly rare, tough, and friggin' cool. I'm thinking about someday doing the Scooter Cannonball on one.
Let me say this at the outset , as long as I am able to ride I will own a Big Ruckus . It is my go to daily driver in warm weather , in cooler weather I ride my 2009 Tmax . When I first bought my first BR , I was pissed at Honda for doing such a piss poor job on what I believe is their best scooter concept ever . Once I learned how to fix all those shortfalls , I was even more pissed when I found out what those fixes would cost . Once I re-jetted , replaced the air filter and put the proper amount of oil in it then installed a Jcosta and a Bitibo rear shock , I was a happy camper . Was it worth the trouble and expense ? HELL YES , IT WAS WORTH EVERY PENNY ! Are Big Ruckus scooters over priced ? ABSOLUTELY NOT ! Top dollar in Japan today is $13,380 dollars U.S. . Once I got my first one running right , without fail every time I drove it I would think to myself , I should pick up another one of these just to be safe . I thought I would be mighty disappointed if mine was stolen or totaled some how .
See prices in Japan here http://motorcycle.goobike.com/motorcycle/bike/honda__ps250/summary.html
To date I have owned 15 BRs , Ive sold 8 and have 7 . I was able to buy a bunch of them when the economy turned bad in 2008 / 2009 at really low prices . Back then I bought every low mileage one within 500 miles of me that was available . I wish now I would have bought more back then , but then again I did get 15 of them . I knew back then that with such a small production run on the BR they were likely to go up in price . A BR owner who has made the necessary modifications to his BR , is more likely looking for BR #2 then selling #1 . I hear people say I bought some other 250cc scooter for a lot less , IMHO they are comparing apples to oranges . IMO there is nothing to compare the BR to , its unique . The BR has a real very substantial frame that will out last any plastic scooter . It has a very low center of gravity and wide tires that make it rock solid on the road . Its freeway capable but IMO barely , that said a lot of people drive them on the freeway . Personally I dont like driving any bike on the freeways , that said I do occasionally on my Tmax . Are there cheaper scooters out there ? YUP ! Are there scooters out there that get better gas mileage ? YUP ! Is there a better overall 250cc scooter out there ? NOPE ! Not IMO . If I were in charge at Honda I would build a 400cc Big Ruckus , and at least a 600cc Big Ruckus .
OK. So, how many offers have you had so far?
I ll almost agree with you but for back roads that aren't gravel the helix is the way to go. Follow by what we both used to ride the ch250 elite . Consider pricing in Japan is far higher for most things then here I do wonder if the price is a reflection of japan everyday scooter and bike cost. The big Ruckus is going to be worth the cash as classic in 5 to 10 years. Theres no much modern stuff out there that could be compared to 1950 design heyday of cool looking scooters. I ve thought of buying one but in the end that 2 grand more is another 40 days of touring . If I wasn't disable and on a limited income like back when i drove semi I buy one in a heart beat. Even came close when the last new one show up a honda dealer last summer and yes it was gone in less then 10 days. 5500 out the door. Last new one that more then likely a dealer ever going to sell of them. Then again you do not know whats out there. I know of a new old stock 1999 royal enfield . Seen other brands etc to.
I've felt frustrated with mine. Less than 300 miles yet seams so sluggish that I thought it was really a dud. Was just going to sell it this year. After reading this link I think there might be hope. I know it really hasn't been broken in at such low mileage but it is like torture riding it around my area. Cars Fast, Ruckus Slow. What a grand thing it would be to ride downtown with out worrying about getting out of someone's way or not being able to move fast enough.
Ordered parts, looking forward to see the difference.
CVT tuning does wonders..
I can outrun stock 500cc scoots with my 300cc scoot, and I've only
tuned the CVT.